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#198755 - 03/23/10 03:06 PM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
JohnE Offline
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Sounds like someone was looking out for the company's interest. Look at it from their point of view, 2 employees treated and transported a patient that didn't need to be. On company time.

You set your company up for a lawsuit if things had gone wrong.

It's always nice to help other people out but if the patient needed to be transported then you should have called for an ambulance. You treated and transported someone in a private vehicle against her expressed wishes, you could have been charged with a crime. Who's going to pay her hospital bill? Who would the patient blame if she'd been further injured due to you getting involved? Simple answer, whoever's got more money, you or the company.


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#198812 - 03/24/10 01:53 AM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: Desperado]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Craig, the problem with you is that you are totally professional and you always seem to be working with large bunches of total idiots.

It certainly would be a beautiful thing if Miz Boss was the next one to be injured! Step over her and get on with your own work.

This total, all-pervading fear of lawsuits is getting unbelievably annoying! Don't help an injured person, don't try to get someone out of a burning car, don't try to catch hold of a child being washed downstream, just stand around and explain to everyone how you just didn't have the cajones to do what needed to be done, and use the fear of a lawsuit as the excuse. (Sneering? I'm sneering? ME??? -- looking in mirror --- oh, yeah, well, I guess I am...)

No matter what your idiot associates did, didn't do, or said, thank you for doing what you did. We need more people like you and far fewer of the gutless wonders who make up the majority of our population.

Sue

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#198826 - 03/24/10 03:46 AM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: Desperado]
philip Offline
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Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 639
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
> Once I went to the really nice metal box, I found it EMPTY except
> for a few Band-Aids!!

I've never seen a wall-mounted first aid box that wasn't as you describe it.

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#198842 - 03/24/10 11:54 AM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: philip]
sybert777 Offline
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Registered: 10/15/09
Posts: 300
Loc: 62208
I actually have seen a Good not Great but good Wall mounted FAK in school! It ghad stuff that the school is supposed to handle, not like sutures or anything but it was fairly sufficient for its purpose!

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#198843 - 03/24/10 11:59 AM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: JohnE]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5338
Loc: SOCAL
Originally Posted By: JohnE
Sounds like someone was looking out for the company's interest. Look at it from their point of view, 2 employees treated and transported a patient that didn't need to be. On company time.

You set your company up for a lawsuit if things had gone wrong.

It's always nice to help other people out but if the patient needed to be transported then you should have called for an ambulance. You treated and transported someone in a private vehicle against her expressed wishes, you could have been charged with a crime. Who's going to pay her hospital bill? Who would the patient blame if she'd been further injured due to you getting involved? Simple answer, whoever's got more money, you or the company.
From the OP:
Originally Posted By: Desperado
. . .I immobilized the leg with a SAM splint and transported her to the local ER. (She didnít want the ambulance ride, and really didnít need it.). . .
As I read the OP's quote, it seems the patient didn't want an ambulance ride; it didn't say she didn't want to be transported someone in a private vehicle against her expressed wishes.

Sounds to me like everything worked well. Fortunately, Texas isn't in Southern California.
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#198860 - 03/24/10 03:10 PM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: Russ]
JohnE Offline
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I misread the original post, I apologise for my inaccuracy about transporting someone against their wishes.




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#198887 - 03/24/10 08:51 PM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: JohnE]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
And if they DON'T want to be transported, just thump them on the head to quiet them down a bit. When you drop them off at the ER, be sure to mention the 'head injury'. ;-)

Sue

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#198894 - 03/24/10 11:20 PM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: Susan]
Desperado Offline
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Registered: 11/01/08
Posts: 1530
Loc: DFW, Texas
The last person I transported that did not go willingly had already had several "thumps" to the head and other various regions of their body. But that was as a military cop
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#198903 - 03/25/10 12:39 AM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: philip]
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1371
Loc: Queens, New York City
Originally Posted By: philip
> Once I went to the really nice metal box, I found it EMPTY except
> for a few Band-Aids!!

I've never seen a wall-mounted first aid box that wasn't as you describe it.


I have - the first few minutes after I finished restocking it
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#198916 - 03/25/10 11:48 AM Re: Preparedness To The Rescue [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2196
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
Originally Posted By: Leigh_Ratcliffe
So if someone is dying you are to just stand there and watch? Guess who could get charged with murder?


I doubt anyone would be charged with murder. I mean, he didn't actively contribute the the cause of death.

Failure to act or something along those lines, sure.

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