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#186808 - 10/28/09 10:12 PM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: Susan]
EdD270 Offline
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Registered: 12/02/08
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Loc: White Mountains of Arizona
There are many sets for snares and traps to catch birds. Gores have been used with great success on birds, and other animals and fish. Probably the easiest way is to snatch them off the roost or nest at night. My favorite is to use a minnow seine or other fishing net stretched between trees to catch them as they fly through the opening.
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#186814 - 10/28/09 10:36 PM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: EdD270]
dweste Offline
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Loc: Central California
"Gores"?

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#186815 - 10/28/09 11:39 PM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: dweste]
EdD270 Offline
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Registered: 12/02/08
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Loc: White Mountains of Arizona
A gore is a device used similar to a fishhook. It's a straight sharp-pointed piece of wood, bone, metal or whatever with a string tied through a hole located near center. The gore can be placed in a piece of bait so the animal will swallow it. After it's swallowed, the string pulls it cross-ways in the animals throat, and the animal is caught.
Hope that helps.
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#186820 - 10/29/09 06:19 AM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: EdD270]
dweste Offline
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Ah! I learned those as "gorges," the first "hooks" used for fishing and other harvesting of animals.

http://www.ssrsi.org/Onsite/survfish.htm

Thanks.


Edited by dweste (10/29/09 07:07 AM)

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#186975 - 10/30/09 11:18 AM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: dweste]
dweste Offline
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I learned that with very small fish or with the parts of large fish you might otherwise discard, the most effective survival use is to dry them, pulverize everything, fins, bones, head, guts and all, into powder, and add the powder into whatever "stew" or "soup" you are cooking.

The idea is that nutrients, minerals, etcetera, are in all parts of a critter and, having invested the time and energy to harvest the critter, you want to consume them to get maximum benefit [and to honor the spirit of the critter, etcetera, if that is part of your belief system.]

Does this same practice, feathers aside, apply to birds?

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#187534 - 11/04/09 10:33 PM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: dweste]
dweste Offline
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Asian and other cultures routinely eat bird feet, wattles, brains, and perhaps other parts that we do not. I remember reading that some bird bones are used for tools, musical instruments, etcetera by various native peoples.

How would we make full use of the resources provided by a harvested bird in a survival situation?

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#187537 - 11/04/09 11:15 PM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: dweste]
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#187564 - 11/05/09 08:25 AM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: dweste]
benjammin Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/05/04
Posts: 3553
Loc: Back home in WA again
I'd say there is a substantial amount of waste from most of the animals we consume that could be so processed into nutritious edible material. A lot of it goes into pet food now. It might be repugnant to our palates for now, but starvation would change attitudes pretty quickly I reckon.

I suspect you could so process most birds as you describe with fish and yield a lot more nutrition from them than we currently make use of.
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#187568 - 11/05/09 08:52 AM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: benjammin]
Blast Offline

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Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 2824
Loc: Spring, Texas
You can even process the feathers into a highly nutritious protien goo. Soylent Bird, anyone?

-Blast


Edited by Blast (11/05/09 08:53 AM)

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#187616 - 11/05/09 03:36 PM Re: Survival harvest of birds [Re: Blast]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 3959
Loc: W. WA
Many of the carcass parts that are incorporated into pet food don't even make decent pet food. Many food-poor cultures eat things because they are available, not because they are nutritious.

For instance: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/01/080130-AP-haiti-eatin.html

Sue

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