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#18499 - 10/23/03 03:29 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
Anonymous
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From context only a guess - LST == Leatherman Super Tool.

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#18500 - 10/23/03 03:30 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
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Leatherman Super Tool

<img src="images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> I had to reread the post a few times befor I caught on.
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#18501 - 10/23/03 04:37 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
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Thanks guys. You're both way ahead of me.

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#18502 - 10/23/03 10:43 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
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Ooops...sorry guys, my mistake...yes the "LST" was referring to Leatherman Super Tool. I should have used the full name first, then listed the abbreviated name in brackets afterwards to preclude reader confusion.

{note to self, re-read all posts AGAIN before posting to thread, especially after enduring distractions like dinner etc.} <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Comanche7


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#18503 - 10/23/03 11:32 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
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Craig & billvann:
When I was first hired, I was astounded at having to sign documentation that this was understood to be a condition of hire. It appears to be an example of a "one size fits all" zero tolerance policy. You might think that if you had a state issued Concealed Weapons Permit to carry protection, that you would be allowed to do so....you would think...nope, it is verboten. Only weapons allowed onsite are those carried by ON DUTY law enforcement officers. Go figure. <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

It gets worse, we can't even keep such items locked up in our vehicles in the company parking lot. It all falls under the "violence free workplace" policy & it really rubs a lot of folks the wrong way. There have been several alleged cases of folks losing their pension over things like this when being terminated due to breaches of policy.

As you stated, other things can be used for multiple purposes if needed. Many moons ago, I read a western novel set in the 1800's that contained something to the effect of how a father? uncle? brother? taught his much younger and smaller female relative to think smart in terms of self defense. The primary lesson being, that when entering a room to look around and make a mental inventory of where things (furniture, decorations, knicknacke etc.) were located so that in case of need for self defense, one could quickly find things to slow down the attacker. The name of the book hs been since forgotten as well as the author (probably a Zane Grey book) but the concept seemed to be worth remembering.

billvann & minime: Thanks for the assist.

reinhardt_woets:
You're welcome. Neither your title or forum membership should be in doubt <img src="images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I enjoy reading your comments and ideas. I should have been a bit more clear.

Regards,
Comanche7

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#18504 - 10/24/03 01:05 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
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So who would know what you keep locked in your car?
Sounds very tenuous to me, legally. Almost like a class-action suit in the making.

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#18505 - 10/24/03 01:47 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
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Geez! What's the company's name? George Orwell & Sons, Inc.? So lets see, if you take the policy to its face value extreem, no pens & pencils, scisors, box knives, letter openners, or paper weights. How do you conduct business if you can't open boxes or envelopes with orders. Let;s go out into the parking lot; tire iron, jumper cable, road flare (nasty weapon) and snow brusk/ice scraper. You're fired! BTW, please remove your shoe laces and belt before entering building. <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Sounds like someone in HR drafted a polict that was actually missing only one item, common sense.
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#18506 - 10/24/03 02:00 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
Polak187 Offline
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How are those policies enforced? Are you being searched? Go thru metal detectors? How do they verify if your car is up to date with the rules? What sort of work you are involved with?

Matt
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#18507 - 10/24/03 03:03 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
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Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
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I pulled out my EDC neck lanyard from under my dress shirt. ...I showed them my Fox 40 Glow in the Dark whistle, Brunton watchband compass and ARC AAA light.


How do you wear this rig without having the gear rattle? I put together a similar rig this morning to give it a trial run. All I have on it are a Ultimate Survival JetScream whistle and an Arc AAA, but the two items clack together when I walk. To myself I sound as noisy as a one-man brass band.

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#18508 - 10/24/03 03:13 PM Re: Why a WHISTLE is important.
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Dog-tag silencers or ranger bands help but they catch the chest-hair and that can be very annoying. OTOH, try different lengths on the lanyard. If it hangs just below the solar plexus it will have some free room and hide better. Also you might try wearing a tee shirt under your dress shirt hanging the junk between the two may stop some of the bouncing. Or switch to belt or pocket carry.


Edited by miniMe (10/24/03 03:13 PM)

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