#183354 - 09/27/09 07:51 PM
Re: Men and gentlemen
[Re: Rodion]
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Old Hand
Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 710
Loc: Augusta, GA
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STANDOUT MANNERS WILL GET YOU SEX is 100% false. I'd have to agree. It's confidence. If you're confident, it won't matter what they say. You also probably won't freak out when she says your food taste like crap (Yes, I know I have a greater chance of being propelled to the Andromeda Galaxy than a woman actually being direct and telling me the truth) or the that she's not interested. I believe the rules are just BS. Put their to protect fragile minds. Just be yourself, but always evaluate if there is something you can change for the better. Plus, I like to not be perfect, I cannot disappoint them, only impress them. 
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#183357 - 09/27/09 08:46 PM
Re: Men and gentlemen
[Re: ki4buc]
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Journeyman
Registered: 09/15/07
Posts: 81
Loc: SoCal
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While I do not agree with all of the list there is something to it. Just ask my wife of 34 years. I'm not perfect, just the right match for her.
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#183359 - 09/27/09 09:17 PM
Re: Men and gentlemen
[Re: Rodion]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
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While in college, women called me the "best mannered guy" they've "ever met". At work, I'm "the only gentleman". Yet somehow, I'm 24 and single since the day I was born. I don't doubt girls admire the attributes outlined in the OP, but this STANDOUT MANNERS WILL GET YOU SEX is 100% false. I've got proof. Or rather, haven't.  P.S. I don't dismiss the possibility the OP refers solely to adults and I just have to hold out some 5-10 more years for the sex appeal to kick in.  Dude, aim higher. You know, the 30-something divorcees. They've got the experience to recognize a decent quality guy, after being burned already. Plus, well, there's other experience they have. Plus they tend to have decent jobs, their own place, and usually have stopped partying to the point where they wander off with the wrong guy. Girls in early 20's are "vibrant" "outgoing" and dumb. Really, a lot don't know what they want, don't know a good thing when they see it, and are just all around too hyper. Like a good wine, they have to decant a bit.
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#183361 - 09/27/09 09:28 PM
Re: Men and gentlemen
[Re: MDinana]
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Geezer
Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5357
Loc: SOCAL
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Dude, aim higher. You know, the 30-something divorcees. They've got the experience to recognize a decent quality guy, after being burned already. Plus, well, there's other experience they have. Plus they tend to have decent jobs, their own place, and usually have stopped partying to the point where they wander off with the wrong guy.
Girls in early 20's are "vibrant" "outgoing" and dumb. Really, a lot don't know what they want, don't know a good thing when they see it, and are just all around too hyper. Like a good wine, they have to decant a bit. +1, that was worth repeating.
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#183371 - 09/27/09 11:54 PM
Re: Men and gentlemen
[Re: Russ]
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Old Hand
Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 710
Loc: Augusta, GA
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+1, that was worth repeating. Definitely. +2!
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#183391 - 09/28/09 02:17 AM
Re: Men and gentlemen
[Re: ki4buc]
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Crazy Canuck
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3219
Loc: Alberta, Canada
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STANDOUT MANNERS WILL GET YOU SEX is 100% false. I'd have to agree. It's confidence. Sorry, Sue, but Rodion and ki4buc are right. Don't get me wrong, manners and civility are crucial (and the lack thereof are inexcusable). But unless they are mixed with at least 50% "eau du dominant male," a good-hearted, well-mannered, stand-up guy is commonly mistaken for the chauffeur, and treated as such by the female contingent.
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#183392 - 09/28/09 02:21 AM
Re: Men and gentlemen
[Re: ki4buc]
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Product Tester
Pooh-Bah
Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 1928
Loc: Mountains of CA
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I agree about having manners and a lot of stuff on your list... but some I don't. It almost seems like you only want to date someone who is PERFECT.  Good luck with that :P And, I know plenty of women who find the opposite of certain things on your list attractive or a quality they wouldn't mind in a man. Just saying, different strokes for different folks.
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#183404 - 09/28/09 06:21 AM
Re: Men and gentlemen
[Re: Susan]
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
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Gentleman: OED definition thereof: A cad who has not been sussed yet.
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