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#182816 - 09/22/09 02:52 AM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: James_Van_Artsdalen]
Desperado Offline
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Registered: 11/01/08
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James,

Have you ever been in, or seen inside a rolled vehicle?

Don't count on loose items in the pocket still being there when the vehicle comes to a rest.
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#182827 - 09/22/09 11:53 AM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: Desperado]
James_Van_Artsdalen Offline
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I'm not counting on things staying in the door pockets in _any_ accident. If they stay within reach then it was a good idea. If not, no harm done, just time for Plan B.

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#182828 - 09/22/09 12:05 PM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: James_Van_Artsdalen]
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Registered: 08/28/04
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Loc: Maple Grove, MN
Originally Posted By: James_Van_Artsdalen
I drive a Honda minivan with two large driver's door pockets. I keep 8 4oz bags of water

I have a Honda minivan too. A quart Nalgene fit perfectly in the "cupholder" in the driver and passenger side doors, firmly enough where I think it might stay put in a rollover.
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#182832 - 09/22/09 01:20 PM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: GoatRider]
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IME, everything--that is not SECURELY fastened down--will fly around the passenger compartment during a rollover, and it will seem afterwards that most of it hit you on the head. I don't have very much loose in the car, anymore. Where I can't get a good hookup with a seatbelt, I use 1" tubular webbing, and carabiners to hold my bag. As far as motorcycles go, if you're not willing to land on it, at speed, don't wear it.
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#182844 - 09/22/09 05:02 PM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: UncleGoo]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA
"She may not have done herself any favors in terms of preparations, but I bet she doesn't use the word 'Quit' very often."

THAT'S for sure! It took a lot of guts and determination to do what she did. Maybe she will pop in here someday.

"I think I will add a golf club to my cold weather kit I am building for my possible trip to Canada."

SURVIVAL GOLF CLUB: weapon, fishing pole, poker for rattlesnakes, rabbit thumper, flag holder, campfire coal arranger, tarp prop, grain flail...

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#182876 - 09/22/09 10:51 PM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: UncleGoo]
James_Van_Artsdalen Offline
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Originally Posted By: UncleGoo
IME, everything--that is not SECURELY fastened down--will fly around the passenger compartment during a rollover,

Alas, I drive a modified Honda Odyssey (lowered, wheelchair ramp) and there are no enclosed storage compartments other than the glove compartment, and I don't trust its latch.

Carabiners is an idea if I can get some hardpoints at the right places.

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#182877 - 09/22/09 10:53 PM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: James_Van_Artsdalen]
thseng Offline
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Registered: 03/24/06
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Loc: NW NJ
I'm thinking it would be a good idea to keep a whistle on my keychain.
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#182879 - 09/23/09 12:09 AM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: thseng]
scafool Offline
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Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
I like Fox whistles. The smaller models like the Micro make good zipper pulls and they usually have a safety link in the neck lanyards if you wear lanyards instead.

http://www.fox40world.com/index.cfm?pagepath=HOME&id=4098

They simply are the best whistles I ever ran across.
On construction sites we use the Fox 40 classics (safety) around heavy equipment like cranes as warning devices. They are loud and shrill enough to be heard over all of the other noise and let people know a lift is happening.

The Standard disclaimer about not being associated with them.



Edited by scafool (09/23/09 12:10 AM)
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#182880 - 09/23/09 12:28 AM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: scafool]
Dagny Offline
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Registered: 11/25/08
Posts: 1908
Loc: Washington, DC
A herd of deer, swerve and an unimaginably horrific five-day ordeal. She has a lot of guts and had a lot of luck.

Gives me the heebie-jeebies thinking about it. Just got back from the mountains today. Me and the pup.

Sounds like the essentials should be in a single bag, secured adjacent to the driver. Perhaps in the passenger seat if traveling alone. Secured by seatbelt?

In a rollover, I'd be lucky if I were not killed by all the stuff in my vehicle.

Death by bottled water - there's a case of it in the back. Unsecured.





Edited by Dagny (09/23/09 02:36 AM)

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#182883 - 09/23/09 12:51 AM Re: Mountain Miracle: Woman Survives 5 Days Following [Re: Dagny]
thseng Offline
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Registered: 03/24/06
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Loc: NW NJ
Heck, when I was rear-ended, my wool hat that had been stuck between the winshield and the dash flew into the back seat. It was COLD that night and here I was standing outside with no hat, already with the shivers from the shock.
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