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#180414 - 08/25/09 09:13 PM Re: Survival migration or self-sustaining retreat [Re: scafool]
dweste Offline
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Thanks.

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#180440 - 08/26/09 01:34 AM Re: Survival migration or self-sustaining retreat [Re: dweste]
Todd W Offline
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All are available from amazon for purchase too.
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#180468 - 08/26/09 10:53 AM Re: Survival migration or self-sustaining retreat [Re: scafool]
LoneWolf Offline
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Registered: 11/06/07
Posts: 101
Along those lines .... I believe it was Readers Digest who put out a book years ago called "Back to the Basics". I'll double check that name if anyone is interested. I have a copy stuck in a cabinet at home.

LW

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#180497 - 08/26/09 03:39 PM Re: Survival migration or self-sustaining retreat? [Re: dweste]
philip Offline
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Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 639
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
I figure with this rig, you're covered whether you hit the road or shelter in place:



For more information and additional photos (see how he sleeps):
http://dvice.com/archives/2009/08/tiny-bicycle-to.php

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#180512 - 08/26/09 04:56 PM Re: Survival migration or self-sustaining retreat? [Re: NightHiker]
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2822
Originally Posted By: NightHiker


That sounds an awful lot like a recommendation for the Foxfire series.


Grandfather died in the early 90's and grandmother a couple years ago so I'd just be going by my memories.

Wv and the applicain mountains have all kinds of small valleys where streams and creeks flow. way back you found yourself a valley, made a spring and built your house/farm. I don't know what order things were built since they were there already when I was born. But you had his house and across from that his parents house then up from that his grandparents house which was had cut square logs that my father's generation turned into a barn. So that would have been my great great grandparents (right number of greats for my grandparents grandparents?). In between was the chicken coop, pig pen and barn, luner shed, wood shed and a couple other sheds that I can't recall the purpose. South of the house was the coal shed, smoke house, garage/shop the "cave" for storing vegetabels. Then a pond and barn, up on the side of the hill was the spring. Then there was a sheep stable furthur up the mountain and a few barns for horses/cattle/sheep/hay/corn on top the mountain where the majority of the ctop land was. You lived within walking distance of the rest of your family so each could take turns going to take care of the old, you went up or down the valley or over to another valley and found a spring and setup your space there.
Most of those old structures are now gone but I'm trying to get my parents to let me start with some of the farm land and build a cabin and an orchard and stuff like that, told them to let my brother have their house down in the valley, when they are gone I won't be able to take care of it so I'm going to build a simple 1-2 room cabin off the grid. There are no decent jobs there anymore, my father drove over an hour each way for work, his last job even being across the state line, plus there are no schools there and my kids are not 3.5 and 2 years old so it will be 16 or more years before I could move there is we wanted to. My long term plan now is to build the small cabin there, maybe even get it with an address and make it my permanent address and live in an RV or apartments or somehting, will be retirement years by then anyway.

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#180515 - 08/26/09 05:13 PM Re: Survival migration or self-sustaining retreat? [Re: Eugene]
dweste Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
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You have connections to the land that most of use lost long ago. Thanks for sharing and please do continue when you are in the mood.

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#180518 - 08/26/09 05:45 PM Re: Survival migration or self-sustaining retreat? [Re: dweste]
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2822
I need to organize and write down all my thoughts so I can add things as I remember them, maybe find old photo albums at my parents and scan them and such, another forum had a similar discussion.

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#180522 - 08/26/09 06:09 PM Re: Survival migration or self-sustaining retreat? [Re: Eugene]
dweste Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
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Loc: Central California
That would be great!

My family is at least three generations away from farming so I have never been exposed to the day-to-day details and find them both sobering and fascinating. There is so much I do not know.


Edited by dweste (08/26/09 06:09 PM)

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