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#169141 - 03/11/09 05:32 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: KG2V]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078
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I knew a guy who had one, got it as a gift from Campy USA, then again, he was the local Campy dealer, and had the full set of Super Record tools (including all the frame builders tools). Guess he gave them enough money over the years


The Campag tools are superb, I've still got the frame builders toolset as well from my frame building days when I was a master frame builder Reynolds 753 approved.

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This is the kind of innovative thinking that has made this forum a great forum. This begs the question "what is the ideal PSK alcohol-bearing drink?". Probably not wine- low etoh content, heavy glass container, difficult access with one hand disabled. Would it be everclear in a nalgene bottle? 151 rum in a coconut shell? or should we consider tablet-form pharmaceuticals with effects similar to ethanol, like valium or ativan?


Four times distilled Islay Spirit would probably be the ultimate PSK alcohol-bearing drink as demonstrated here near the end of the video;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDQG_VdaH_s

Wolf Blass Bilyara Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon, South Australia, 2004 and Chardonay 2005 is available with a screw top PET bottle designed specifically for a BOB. whistle




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#169151 - 03/11/09 07:15 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
duckear Offline
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Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 478
Breaking a SAK corkscrew???????

Some people worry waaaaaaaaay too much.

Get a SAK Camper or Climber, leave it in your shaving kit for travel.

I have and old Camper that has been around the world.



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#169154 - 03/11/09 07:56 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: nursemike]
jaywalke Offline
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Registered: 12/22/07
Posts: 172
Loc: Appalachian mountains
Originally Posted By: nursemike
This begs the question "what is the ideal PSK alcohol-bearing drink?".


Everclear. Potency/weight can't be beat, and you can use it as an antiseptic or as a stove fuel (or very fast-burning firestarter). I used to hike with a guy who carried his in a fold-up Platypus bottle. We'd roll into camp, he'd use it to fill his alcohol stove, light it, and then he'd casually take a swig from the fuel bottle while dinner cooked. The look on the other hikers' faces was priceless.

BTW, that's not begging the question. http://begthequestion.info/
I used to get it wrong all the time . . .

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#169162 - 03/11/09 08:55 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: airballrad]
Brangdon Offline
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Registered: 12/12/04
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Loc: Nottingham, UK
Originally Posted By: airballrad
I really like the corkscrew on the Leatherman Juice line. It adds the mechanical advantage of a lever (like a waiter's corkscrew), so it works with less effort.
That's my choice too. The lever-assist gives you something to push against; it's a much-better engineered solution.

The corkscrew itself is a trifle thin so there is a danger of it pulling through the cork. It does work though. A couple of years ago on a skiing holiday, the hotel left a complimentary bottle of wine in my room. If I'd not had my Juice with me, I'd have had to take it down to reception to get it opened.
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#169165 - 03/11/09 10:01 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: Brangdon]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
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Given the swords so many expurts are promoting, the classic cavalry sabre knock off the neck should work.
But if my idea gets around there will be 15 new threads on the various cutlery forums, each claiming to have invented the winebotttle cutting choil or something first.

I have a full on sommelier's tool with chain.

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#169169 - 03/11/09 10:49 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: Equipped4Chicago]
CANOEDOGS Offline
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Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 1853
Loc: MINNESOTA

anyplace you can buy wine will have a box of cheap corkscrews at the checkout counter.i would go that route rather than look everywhere for a knife with one built into it..i don't think i've ever seen a pocket knife that had a corkscrew that any guts to it..

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#169170 - 03/11/09 10:49 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: Equipped4Chicago]
philip Offline
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Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 639
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
I totally agree, and I've needed a corkscrew often enough to carry a knife that includes one: the Buck Knife 761BLX Twin Peaks, at

http://www.hand-tools.com/product-detail.php?prodnum=B761BLX

My copy of the knife has Buck on the big blade, but no logo on the handle. The knife has a window-cracker built into the handle (the "lanyard hole" referred to in the page above), two blades (one half-serrated to cut your seatbelt), a can/bottle opener, and the corkscrew.

Pocket corkscrews like this:

http://www.penimpressions.com/poccor.html

are an option, but they are another item to have on your keychain/in your pocket/whereever, so having one built into the knife is definitely a plus if you don't mind the bigger size required to house the screw.

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#169171 - 03/11/09 10:58 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: CANOEDOGS]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
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Loc: SOCAL
Me, GF, bread, cheese and a nice Bordeaux on a bench in the back yard of Louis' house at Versailles. . . Victornox Champion (my first SAK) opened the bottle. I have yet to meet a bottle of wine that can defeat an SAK corkscrew.
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#169174 - 03/11/09 11:27 PM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
yelp Offline
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Registered: 06/04/08
Posts: 172
Loc: Colorado
scafool's on it - have a TTP in place for when the corkscrew gets left behind or breaks. Whittle out as much of the cork as you can and push the rest down in the bottle or 'spank' it - though I hit the bottle base against a tree trunk, not my hand. But it does work.

Sabrage is normally reserved for bottles of the bubbly, but who's to say it won't work on the vino? Gotta try that.

//goes to look for cavalry sabre

Excerpted (for review purposes only) from Mollod and Tesauro's "The Modern Lover," with special reference to sabrage at weddidngs:

During Napoleon's early-1800s heyday, the Hussars celebrated victory with sabrage, the art of beheading a Champagne bottle with a saber. Rumors abound that the tradition began with the grand widow of bubbly, Madame Clicquot, who gave handsome mounted officials bottles of Veuve Clicquot. Inspired by thirst and the recent Reign of Terror, horseback soldiers drew sabers and decapitated their bottles like so many traitors.

The guillotine is long since retired, yet sabrage lives on with the bottle-chopping sabreurs of the Confreirie du Sabre d'Or. Champagne sabering is now reserved for special occasions too festive for extracting corks with a mere twist of the hand.

Bastille Day is never an appropriate time to behead a bottle, and personal holidays worthy of the spectacle include anniversaries, birthdays, and weddings. Don't fret if you can't afford the airfare for a trip to sabre school at the Grand Chapitre; we've spelled out the practical swordsmanship necessary to saber the day:

1. Make sure the Champagne or sparkling wine is well chilled. A warm bottle has higher pressure and risks the foaming loss of much wine, not to mention a loved one's eyeball. Remove the foil and cage; it the bottle is cold enough, the cork won't shoot off prematurely.

2. Examine the bottle and find one of the two vertical seams running up the sides. The spot on the bottleneck where this seam meets the lower lip is the weak point, for which you'll aim. Until you've logged some sabre successes, remove any remaining foil from the neck to spot your target more easily at the base of the ring-shaped lip, known as the annulus. (Should you muff the beheading and maim a bridesmaid, note that this word is conveniently located on the same dictionary page as annulment.)

3. Place your left thumb (unless you're a southpaw) inside the punt (bottom indentation) or simply grip the bottle firmly around the base. Angle the bubbly around 30 degrees above horizontal, pointed away from nearby persons, chandeliers, or stained glass windows. Use a serviette or napkin to dry off a sweating, slippery bottle.

4. Take the sabre in your other hand (handle perpendicular to the seam) and lay the blade flat just below the lip of the bottle. With the blade aimed at the annulus, take a couple of slow motion practice swings to get a feel for the coup de grace to come.

5. Swing with full force away from your body, upward along the neck, and into the bottom of the lip, making sure to follow through. To minimize spillage, immediately turn the bottle upright. The impact, combined with the bottle's internal pressure, spectacularly separates the head from the neck and thrusts the cork, annulus still intact, several feet into the air.

When the bottle is struck perfectly, anticipate a breathless pause before the sabre clang against glass gives way to a dramatic gush of fizz. You ought to lose no more than an ounce of wine, fair trade for the gallons of accolades poured upon the sabreur who masters this feat.

Laguiole, king of handmade French cutlery and corkscrews, produces a rose handle sabre just for beheading Champagne. Priced as a generous wedding gift, it's the ideal present for a bride and groom to open at the reception, right before it's put to use on the bubbly for the best man's toast. If no one ponies up a gift-wrapped saber, don't reach for great-grandpa's WWI rapier or a faux samurai sword bought at a county fair swap meet. Simply ask the caterer for a heavy blade or any massive knife you'd use to carve a turkey. For the sake of the chef's good manner, turn the honed end around and strike with the back side.

Nice touch: Position two groomsmen: one plays centerfield with a top hat as the other bides with a Champagne flute. The outfielder catches the cork on the fly while the other spares precious drops of bubbly with a glass at the ready.
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#169176 - 03/12/09 12:31 AM Re: Pocket knife with corkscrew [Re: yelp]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
I've never had a problem with a SAK corkscrew, but it IS rather tough to pull out the cork without some spillage.

I'm with Canoedogs - buy that cheapie corkscrew (the one where the crosspiece acts as the sheath for the screw) and toss it in your shaving kit. Heck, it might fit in a PSP if you're uber-wine hardcore.


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