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#178461 - 08/02/09 10:39 PM Re: Questions From a Non-Fisherman [Re: ]
scafool Offline
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Gill nets used to be a required piece of emergency gear for any planes operating in northern Canada.

Gill nets are meant to hang in open water like a curtain. They have floats on the top edge and weights on the bottom. You can rig them under ice on frozen lakes or hang them from logs.
The mesh is sized so a fish running into it gets stuck just past the gills and can not go ahead or back out of it, the mesh catches behind the gill covers. Gill nets can be very specific about what size of fish you catch, and even what species. Fish which are too small swim through the mesh and fish which are too big don't get far enough into the mesh to get caught.
Gill netting is a passive fish catcher. You set the net and come back later to haul it in. Gill nets kill the fish they catch. It might sound odd but the fish drown in them.

Most of the nets people refer to as gill net are actually seine nets and are meant to strain all the fish out of the water. They are usually much smaller mesh and only the smallest of fish can escape. They can be rigged to trap fish like a pound net, used like a purse net or as a fish trap. You can drag them through the water or set them up as a dip net. Usually you use them actively as a seine. You surround the fish with them and then pull them in like a bag.

Fish nets can be excused as hammocks and as carry bags, but try not to get caught with one rigged with floats weights and lines on it for fishing if you are camping near water.

Now if I was in a survival situation I would be happy to have a game warden appear and tell me I was fishing illegally.

It is odd how the law is different if you are actually in a survival situation.


Edited by scafool (08/03/09 12:37 AM)
Edit Reason: grammar
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#178467 - 08/03/09 12:55 AM Re: Questions From a Non-Fisherman [Re: scafool]
2005RedTJ Offline
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Registered: 01/07/09
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Loc: Birmingham, Alabama
In a pill bottle in my bag I keep the following:

2 - 1/0 size worm hooks
2 - 2/0 size worm hooks
2 - small lead "pinch-on" weights
2 - medium lead "pinch-on" weights
2 - large lead "pinch-on" weights
2 - small lead sliding weights
2 - medium lead sliding weights
1 - small float
1 - 1/8 ounce "Rooster Tail" lure (my favorite lure for fishing)
1 - 4" "motor oil" colored worm
1 - 4" purple colored worm

And I have 100' of 6 pound test line wrapped around the pill bottle. I have zero doubt that I can catch fish with this gear, as I do a pretty good bit of fishing (most of it using the same exact gear).

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#178470 - 08/03/09 01:45 AM Re: Questions From a Non-Fisherman [Re: 2005RedTJ]
dweste Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
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Loc: Central California
Key with all gear - use it so you know what you can do.

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#178517 - 08/03/09 04:43 PM Re: Questions From a Non-Fisherman [Re: dweste]
Mike_H Offline
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Loc: SE PA
Gill nets are typically illegal for "normal" fishing use... If it is vacuum packed away in your survival gear, hard to prove that you are actively using it.

However, in a survival situation, everything is valid to catch food. As scafool said, would be happy to have someone come along to fine me if I'm in a survival situation! ;-)

Gill nets can be used both in active and passive mode... The mesh size does determine what it will/won't catch, but it can be used much like a seine net in active mode.
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#178527 - 08/03/09 06:57 PM Re: Questions From a Non-Fisherman [Re: Mike_H]
dweste Offline
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Mike, you ever used one? If so, how did it work?

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#178610 - 08/04/09 06:06 PM Re: Questions From a Non-Fisherman [Re: dweste]
Mike_H Offline
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Loc: SE PA
Never used one as a leave behind gill net... Have used a seine net to catch fish for live bait... It is more of an active thing and they do well...

With active use, you want to "herd" the fish into a place they can't get to, then scoop up and out.

With the hand and leave, you just let the fish get tangled on their own accord. Once again, mesh size is the key to these two functions. Hard to try the leave method as it is illegal unless in a survival situation.
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#178616 - 08/04/09 06:47 PM Re: Questions From a Non-Fisherman [Re: Mike_H]
dweste Offline
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Registered: 02/16/08
Posts: 2463
Loc: Central California
thanks. Use of a small gill net is one of many, many things it would be nice if a surival show got permission to show.


Edited by dweste (08/04/09 06:49 PM)

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