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#168965 - 03/09/09 12:06 PM Re: Les Stroud releases survival book [Re: Hookpunch]
Brangdon Offline

Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 1201
Loc: Nottingham, UK
Originally Posted By: Hookpunch
I suggest that everyone should learn the knots listed here. http://www.4thtyldesley.co.uk/knots/
That's 15 knots. The more the better, of course, but I'd put a core, "must know" repertoire at half that. (And it would include the Constrictor Knot, which that list omits.)
Quality is addictive.

#168966 - 03/09/09 12:20 PM Re: Les Stroud releases survival book [Re: Brangdon]
Tom_L Offline

Registered: 03/19/07
Posts: 690
There are of course some hotels around where some SERE skills are required. The Silver Rock in Barbados comes to mind. eek And even in some excellent 5 star luxury hotels I have ended up spending the night out in a location such as a rocky outcrop, without any shelter, with no food and water in the middle of a island in the hotel pool. blush

That is a challenging survival situation indeed, more so if you have to share those meager resources with a couple of beautiful exotic girls ready for anything...

#168968 - 03/09/09 12:32 PM Re: Les Stroud releases survival book [Re: Tom_L]
Russ Offline

Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5131
Bear could show us how it's done. He should shoot an episode on that island, I'm sure his producers could rough it there between takes.

#168981 - 03/09/09 05:44 PM Re: Les Stroud releases survival book [Re: ]
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline

Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
Originally Posted By: Troglodyte007
Originally Posted By: Leigh_Ratcliffe
Originally Posted By: Russ
Originally Posted By: Troglodyte007
. . . you are perceived by many as a favoritist homo seeking sympathy for the fact that Bear can approach survival with more of an SERE outlook than you can. . .
I don't recall being able to take the night off and sleep in a hotel during SERE. It was a long time ago, but that's something I think I'd remember. When did you go through SERE? Did you stay in a hotel at night?

S.E.R.Eis Survival. Evasion. Resistance. Escape .

Which this is not.

This is S.T.B.R.

Survive To Be Rescued.

In SERE you do not want to be found.
In STBR you do.

I disagree. When I watch Bear I get that he is moving from one place to another and not at all awaiting rescue. I do not think he is teaching SERE skills, but like I said before, what he is doing is applicable to them, which is being able to survive on the move, having "more of an SERE outlook" as I already said. Bear has a military background which is apparent in his survival strategy of finding his own way out and which reminds me of SERE. Other than the possibility that there may have been a few episodes I didn't see where he makes camp and awaits rescue somewhere, I don't know what you are talking about.

The normal advice in a situation in a survival situation is that you should remain where you are.

However, that comes with the caveat that you should only do so provided it is safe to do so.

In a situation you have to assess the situation and decide what your best course of action is. It might be better to stay put. Then again there might be a hazard(s) that makes moving elsewhere advisable.

Lower altitude, to water, shelter etc.

One scenario that Bear presented was the one of being stuck on a desert island. In this case there was no fresh water source. Desalinating seawater by boiling was impractical because of insufficent fuel and rain for water was intermittent at best. Staying put simply meant dying from thirst. Under those circumstances, constructing a raft and trying for another island is about your only hope.

Chances are that you will perish at sea. But you might make it.
You will die if you remain.
I don't do dumb & helpless.

#168983 - 03/09/09 06:15 PM Re: Les Stroud releases survival book [Re: ]
Glock-A-Roo Offline
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Registered: 04/16/03
Posts: 1076
Originally Posted By: Troglodyte007
Go on a survival outing with an accredited wilderness school to learn about survival.

Can you direct me to the authority that accredits wilderness schools?

#168986 - 03/09/09 06:48 PM Re: Les Stroud releases survival book [Re: Glock-A-Roo]

Originally Posted By: Glock-A-Roo
Originally Posted By: Troglodyte007
Go on a survival outing with an accredited wilderness school to learn about survival.

Can you direct me to the authority that accredits wilderness schools?

By "accredited" I mean widely known or widely respected or widely acknowledged as being a genuine place of learning.

"Accredited" can mean different things to different people, so I will try not to think your question is sarcastic by trying to point you in the right direction thusly (in case you took it literally):

Woodland Survival Crafts
Wilderness Gathering

There are many, many more accredited schools all over the world, and there are many different authorities as well.

It would probably be more beneficial to you to search for them on your own, as each seems to dance to a different drum.

I hope that helps.

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