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#166236 - 02/03/09 05:15 PM electrocution of handwell near light pole.
picard120 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/05
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have you guys notice electrocution from electrical handwell near light poles?

There have been numerous electrocution of kids and dogs in Toronto due to corrode wires in handwells. I wonder if you guys notice in US.

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#166238 - 02/03/09 05:24 PM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: picard120]
Desperado Offline
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Most of the recent electrocutions I have heard of involved copper thieves. I don't doubt it is possible that I have missed it though. In the last four years, son#1 and I have found two crispy critters laying in the freeway while coming home from late night hockey practice.

Seems folks tend to try the freeway light standards late at night, I guess just because the lights are off???

Once they get the wrong light, it is pretty quick. We have never seen someone injured, just dead.

When you say "kids", do you mean teens? Maybe there was more than met the eye going on??
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#166251 - 02/03/09 06:05 PM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: picard120]
airballrad Offline
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Registered: 10/22/07
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Loc: Gulf Coast Florida, USA
ConEd in NYC had a problem with this that made the news a couple years ago...

Story about nervous dogwalkers...
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#166260 - 02/03/09 06:52 PM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: airballrad]
GarlyDog Offline
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Registered: 04/05/07
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Loc: The People's Republic of IL
Wow! Thanks for the heads up on this.
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#166266 - 02/03/09 07:06 PM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: GarlyDog]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
Rubber shoes for the walkers, rubber booties for the dogs.

Sue

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#166389 - 02/04/09 01:52 PM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: Susan]
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
Rubber booties ain't gonna cut it if the dog lifts his leg near the lightpole. He'll only ever do it once.
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#166408 - 02/04/09 04:01 PM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: Desperado]
Mike_in_NKY Offline
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Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 121
Loc: KY
Originally Posted By: Desperado
...while coming home from late night hockey practice.



Knew there was something about you that was good!

Apparently the issue in Toronto is where underground electrical connections, installed with metal covers experience leaking to the cover. When you step on one that is leaking you get zapped.

To accurately determine which of the 15,000 boxes are faulty they have to inspect each one by removing the cover. Some are bolted in place, corroded, etc. Some have to be jack hammered out to test them! New plastic/composite boxes are being used. They expect it to take a couple of months to check all of them. Advise is not to step on any metal box in the sidewalk!

That link to the ConEd experience sounds like a similar issue.


Edited by Mike_in_NKY (02/04/09 04:04 PM)

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#166415 - 02/04/09 04:48 PM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: Mike_in_NKY]
Desperado Offline
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Son#1 has been playing since he was 6. Started with inline and moved to ice. We have traveled the world with it since. I miss getting to help on the rink, but I have ZERO business out there.

While in construction, I have seen things with electrical boxes that would make the average citizen faint with fright. We had a composite box run over by a tractor and destroyed in a residential area. I called the local utility after securing the area from passers-by. (KIDS!) Waited for 6 hours for the utility to show up. Then I built a box from 2x4's and sheets of OSB (wafer board) around it and went home. Called the utility for every day the following 2 months. They finally came and fixed it.
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#166487 - 02/05/09 02:35 PM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: Desperado]
Eugene Offline
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Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2823
I've seen lots of light poles along city sidewalks with the acess covers at the bottom missing and wires exposed. Seems to be a normal thing.

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#166554 - 02/06/09 02:03 AM Re: electrocution of handwell near light pole. [Re: benjammin]
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
"Rubber booties ain't gonna cut it if the dog lifts his leg near the lightpole."

Rubber shoes, rubber booties for the dog, and a RUBBER BAND until you get to the park! grin

Sue

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