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#163544 - 01/17/09 05:25 AM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: scafool]
LED Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
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In. Being a refugee doesn't look like fun. However you can't choose your crisis and when its time to go, its time to go.

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#163551 - 01/17/09 11:19 AM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: ]
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My planned response to what? grin

The situation will dictate the strategy. Approaching the issue any other way (IMO) is fatally flawed.

In the end each individual is going to have to make a (hopefully enlightened) decision that fits their particular scenario. The right decision for me might not be the same as my neighbor.
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#163579 - 01/17/09 05:06 PM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: 7point82]
scafool Offline
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Registered: 12/18/08
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Loc: Muskoka
Originally Posted By: 7point82
My planned response to what? grin

The situation will dictate the strategy. Approaching the issue any other way (IMO) is fatally flawed.

In the end each individual is going to have to make a (hopefully enlightened) decision that fits their particular scenario. The right decision for me might not be the same as my neighbor.


Yes, and when people start preparing for an event they tend to give one option preference and prepare for that option much more than other options.
Sometimes it is to the point where they actually lose the secondary option.
One of the results might be that they are be totally stocked to survive a year in their home but not have any real plans or equipment to evacuate if they had to, or they might be the exact opposite.
Hopefully most of us have a sense of balance and keep more than one option open.


Edited by scafool (01/18/09 02:01 AM)
Edit Reason: small correction
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#163591 - 01/17/09 07:17 PM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: BigDaddyTX
you'd need to pick up an inflatable mattress


I'll sleep in the mud and snow if I have to. It is nice, dry, warm dirt I don't like. *laughs* It is one of those things were I'll do, but usually grumble about. Which is why I have at least a ground sheet to put under me. Worst part is when an ant tries to investigate my nostrils...
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#163640 - 01/18/09 01:44 AM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: 7point82]
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Registered: 12/03/05
Posts: 232
Loc: Wyoming, USA
Originally Posted By: 7point82
My planned response to what? grin

The situation will dictate the strategy. Approaching the issue any other way (IMO) is fatally flawed.

In the end each individual is going to have to make a (hopefully enlightened) decision that fits their particular scenario. The right decision for me might not be the same as my neighbor.


I whole heartedly agree! Assess the situation before you do anything. I am not going to run out of my house if it is safer to stay in it. But when staying put creates more of a liability, then you leave. Each persons' desision will be different based on their assessment. Rantor and I as well as our loved ones have a plan. And we have a back up plan as well as a back up plan for our back up plan. If all those fail or are unfeasable, we have both been in emergency services long enough that we can think and run at the same time (works running toward or away from situations). I say assess - assess - assess then continue to assess through out the crisis / situation. Rememeber that the only thing constnat is change.
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#163712 - 01/18/09 04:38 PM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: scafool]
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Registered: 12/12/04
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Loc: Nottingham, UK
Bugging in is much easier. You don't have to carry stuff.

When bugging out you have to decide where to go. I guess if you have two homes, then in a crisis you might prefer to be in the other one. If I'm at work I'll probably want to go home, which is a 3-mile walk.

If I'm at home, then I'll only want to relocate if I have no choice, and then I'd hopefully have more information. A lot depends on how many other people are affected. A tornado here is liable to affect fewer than 50 houses, so I can just move into a hotel if mine is one of them. With a national disaster, anywhere I could reach would already be full of other refugees. Britain is a small country; it's not like America or Europe where it seems you have unlimited land you can walk to.

Leaving this island by boat, plane or chunnel would have to be done well in advance to avoid the crowds.
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#163718 - 01/18/09 05:17 PM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: scafool]
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Too vague of a question and too many variables / scenarios to warrant a detailed response...but bugging in is a generic answer for me.

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#163727 - 01/18/09 07:26 PM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: ]
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
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For the majority of situations, in is preferably planned. On those instances where leaving would be better, I have a few places here and there to head to that are reasonably well equipped, and enough to keep me reasonably secure till I can get there, more or less.

No plan is foolproof, which is why the best thing I can do is gather intelligence and have the right mindset.
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#163745 - 01/18/09 09:54 PM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: benjammin]
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Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 301
Loc: NE Ohio
Preferably in...I dont really have a BOL (nothing beyond 30 miles away if I need to G.O.O.D) to go to and would most likely have to set up camp wherever I could, which would be an absolute last resort. I also have a father in poor health and my 95 year-old grandfather that I couldn't leave behind.


Edited by el_diabl0 (01/18/09 09:54 PM)
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#163822 - 01/19/09 10:23 AM Re: Bug in or bug out? [Re: el_diabl0]
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Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
Depends on the situation. Plan to be ready to do both. Personally I'd prefer to bug in as I have more supplies than I can easily take with me and I know the area very will.
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