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#163430 - 01/16/09 04:08 PM Simply put - just pays to be prepared...
Evan Offline
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I always keep a bug out bag at the ready and adequate emergency supplies in the car and get chided by friends about being over prepared - nothing is going to happen here.... Well we doged a bullet so to speak last night as a train derailed at 4:30 A.M. about 2 blocks from where we live. 2 cars were carrying molten sulfur... luckly - no leaks, and as far as I know no one hurt. Mottow of the story - be prepared it can happen anywhere.

Evan

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#163431 - 01/16/09 04:45 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Evan]
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What makes me more nervous than sulfur are propane and toxic gas carriers.
It does not have to be anything that dramatic though.
Even a one house fire counts as a disaster if you end up homeless because of it.
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#163440 - 01/16/09 05:20 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: scafool]
Nishnabotna Offline
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Who here has gas masks because of train cars and their contents?
Anhydrous Amonia scares me. (I know I spelled that wrong :p)

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#163441 - 01/16/09 05:22 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Evan]
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"...chided by friends about being over prepared..."

And you will be the first one they run to for help whenever something happens. Be ready to tell them "I told you so"...
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#163443 - 01/16/09 05:23 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Nishnabotna]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Many gas masks only work with "riot agents," ie tear gas. I don't know how well they would be with that stuff..
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#163448 - 01/16/09 05:42 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: OldBaldGuy]
Rodion Offline
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"And you will be the first one they run to for help whenever something happens. Be ready to tell them "I told you so"..."

Meh, comes with the territory. The ego injection alone is enough of a thank you.
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#163457 - 01/16/09 06:21 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Nishnabotna]
wildman800 Offline
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To answer your question, I do, with chemical cartridges.

I have known of such an occurance in Laurel, Ms; involving large propane tank cars, @ 0400 on 14Feb1968, among other incidents that happened before and since.
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#163464 - 01/16/09 06:54 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Evan]
Evan Offline
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#163468 - 01/16/09 07:13 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Evan]
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Registered: 02/08/07
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I seldom tell people what I have stored away. I like the look on their faces when during an emergency I pull out exactly what is needed.

Tim

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#163475 - 01/16/09 08:16 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Nishnabotna]
Tjin Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nishnabotna
Who here has gas masks because of train cars and their contents?
Anhydrous Amonia scares me. (I know I spelled that wrong :p)


Different HAZMAT require different personal protective gear. A gasmask it self is almost useless, with other equipment and skills.

gasmasks uses filters, the kind of filters depends on the kind of hazardous vapours, gasses, particles. The are to many kinds to practically carry and maintain for a normal citizen. Also some gasses will chew its well through filters in very short periodes of time. Thats why the emergency services carry their own air (SCBU), also to expensive, inpractical and requires lots of training and maintaince.

Most HAZMAT responce require protective gear, like suits, gloves, shoes, eye protection, hoods, etc. Not all HAZMAT suits are usefull for all HAZMAT materials. No practical to store/have/buy everything privately.

Last and not least, decontamination is a very importent skill. It tales practise to not contaminate yourself after stepping outside a protective suit.

Best skill on HAZMAT situation. Good situation awarness, knowing where the wind is heading and make sure your not down wind from a incident.
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