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#162714 - 01/12/09 11:18 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: Blast]
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Ahhhh, a 9V battery and fine 0000 steel wool, a favorite of my scouts for starting a fire, it's so easy, a cave man could do it.
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#162720 - 01/12/09 11:38 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: Be_Prepared]
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An aa battery works too. Just tease out some steel wool to each
terminal.

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#162724 - 01/12/09 11:46 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: clearwater]
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No idea, but I'd say newspapers aren't tinder, they're kindling.

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#162741 - 01/13/09 12:47 AM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: dweste]
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There's nothing like hands-on practicing!! At last last year's Boy Scout summer camp my son took the Wilderness Survival merit badge. Part of that involves lighting a fire three ways without matches. He used a ferro rod, steel wool w/ 9V, and a magnifying glass on twine.

Here's a picture of him (on the left) and his buddy just before heading off to a night with just the clothes on their back and a few bits of survival gear. They are trying to look like mountain men.



I was surprized how well the steel wool worked ... and how difficult lighting with the magnifying glass was.


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#162930 - 01/13/09 06:46 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: KenK]
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Ken,

I thought camo was a "no-no" for scouting.

I'm actually doing a fire starting session with the scouts a few weekends from now. I'm going to demonstrate some different tinders using just a BSA Hot Spark to start.

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#162933 - 01/13/09 07:06 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: Blast]
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Great experience indeed. Nice Job.

Originally Posted By: Blast

What tinders worked best (or even at all) with sparks struck from the flint/knife combo? I've never been able to get that work with anything other than char cloth. blush
-Blast


I assuming that you mean something naturally occurring? Now I don't feel so bad. I haven't had much success with naturally available materials either.

I am thinking Milkweed pod silk or Cattail fluff (the plant that is) might be an option, but haven't tried yet.


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#162943 - 01/13/09 07:55 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: Blast]
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Originally Posted By: Blast
I was hoping you found something other than char cloth that would work with old school flint/steel strikers. frown -Blast


Working on it! I think the fluffed up twine fibers would go, but I cannot remember seeing anyone try.

Is the rod on one side of the Doan magnesium bar ferrocerium(sp?) and not flint, as I may have erroneously assumed?

How about the strikers on Bic lighters, don't they use flint?

When I was in Los Angeles over the Holiday period I was able to join a small group on a great "survival walk" with Christopher Nyerges (sp?). He had a chunk of rock that I understood was flint, and a handheld steel in the shape like a carabiner that was used as the striker. They put out a lot of sparks when struck properly and easily ignited fine steel wool.


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#162951 - 01/13/09 08:25 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: dweste]
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Is the rod on one side of the Doan magnesium bar ferrocerium(sp?) and not flint, as I may have erroneously assumed?

How about the strikers on Bic lighters, don't they use flint?


Ferrocerium in both cases.

I have a flint/steel fire starting kit like Christopher Nyerges. Hmmm, steel wool? I'll have to try that though I'm still hoping someone might have another option. Oh, tinder fungus doesn't grow down here as far as I can determine so that's out too.

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#162958 - 01/13/09 08:58 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: Blast]
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Originally Posted By: Blast
[quote]I have a flint/steel fire starting kit like Christopher Nyerges. Hmmm, steel wool? -Blast


Any idea where a flint-and-steel set like that can be purchased?

Thanks.

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#162959 - 01/13/09 09:12 PM Re: Group experience with fire-starting [Re: dweste]
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