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#162507 - 01/12/09 12:26 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: CSG]
yelp Offline
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Registered: 06/04/08
Posts: 172
Loc: Colorado
Chapstick works on cotton balls and lint for both sparks and flame - it just has to be "fuzzed out" quite a bit. Haven't tried with other tinders but the principles will hold true.

Wick and wax (as in any wick and any wax) will probably ignite. I've been told that earwax works, but I haven't tried that one...yet.
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#162518 - 01/12/09 01:59 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: gonewiththewind]
Sherpadog
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Although PJ works ok, I make my own fire starter from candles, wooden matches, sawdust and cardboard egg cartons

Easy to make.

3 matches cut in 3 pieces each per dozen egg carton...

Put the non-match pieces of the matches and sawdust in each egg carton cup.

Melt candles and pour into the egg cartons until full.

Let harden until almost solid

Insert the ignitable match ends in with the match end barely sticking out of the candle wax.

Let harden overnight then break the egg carton into 12 pieces.

Store in a plastic bag until needed. I keep 4 pieces as such in all my backpacks.

When needed, simply spark up the protruding match heads. These fire starters once lit will burn even in pouring rain on average 5 minutes. Throw some dry pine needles or pine cones on and you will have a good base fire to add to in no time flat.

That being said, If I have access to dry pine needles and pine cones...which can be found under any large pine tree, here is no need for supplemental fire starter.

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#162530 - 01/12/09 02:33 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: ]
CSG Offline
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Registered: 12/17/07
Posts: 72
Loc: Idaho
Sounds like a good idea until they sit in a hot car for a few days.

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#162531 - 01/12/09 02:38 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: CSG]
Sherpadog
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No problem...after 2 summers now in the trunk of the car.

Where I live and travel, it may get to the mid 90's..if we are lucky for a few days, otherwise the high temp is around low 80's in the summer.

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#162534 - 01/12/09 02:54 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: ]
sotto Offline
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Registered: 06/04/03
Posts: 450
Actually, my favorite accelerant bar-none is your average can of Zippo lighter fluid. It will set a drinking fountain on fire and it takes up only a small amount of space in pack or pocket.

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#162540 - 01/12/09 03:31 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: sotto]
Desperado Offline
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Registered: 11/01/08
Posts: 1530
Loc: DFW, Texas
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#162545 - 01/12/09 03:54 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: gonewiththewind]
Blast Offline
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Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
Hand sanitizer!

The plan was this:
1. Wait until dark.
2. Place mostly empty 1-gallon bottle of Purell hand sanitizer (67% ethanol) in the middle of my neighbor's driveway.
3. Drop a lit firecracker into the mostly empty bottle of Purell gelled alcohol.
4. Run out of range of the big, blue fireball I hoped to create.
5. Watch big blue fireball appear.
6. Continue watching as my neighbor runs out of his house to find his driveway engulfed in globs of flames.
7. Have good laugh with neighbor.

The plan was going smoothly up until step #3. It turns out even though the ethanol is gelled it has a very high vapor pressure. This resulted in the empty portion of the bottle being very rich in ethanol vapor.

Translation: the ethanol fumes ignited as soon as the lit fuse of the firecracker came into contact with them. Unfortunatly, the lit firecracker was still in my hand. As soon as the firecracker's burning fuse moved over the bottle's opening a burst of flame shot forth like a jet engine's afterburner. It was really cool, except for the resulting 2nd degree burns on my thumb and first two fingers. It also sped up the rate at which the fuse was burning. Luckily, I'm pretty good at throwing my body out of harm's wa...KABLAMM!!

The fireball turned out to be less spectacular than I expected. Most of the ethanol had been consumed in the first fire. The firecracker mostly just shot really hot, really sticky goo around. Potentially useful, but not very awe-inspiring. My neighbor didn't even come out to see what the noise was.

-Blast
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#162548 - 01/12/09 04:07 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: Blast]
Dan_McI Offline
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Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 844
Loc: NYC
Originally Posted By: Blast
Hand sanitizer!

The plan was this:
1. Wait until dark.
2. Place mostly empty 1-gallon bottle of Purell hand sanitizer (67% ethanol) in the middle of my neighbor's driveway.
3. Drop a lit firecracker into the mostly empty bottle of Purell gelled alcohol.
4. Run out of range of the big, blue fireball I hoped to create.
5. Watch big blue fireball appear.
6. Continue watching as my neighbor runs out of his house to find his driveway engulfed in globs of flames.
7. Have good laugh with neighbor.

The plan was going smoothly up until step #3. It turns out even though the ethanol is gelled it has a very high vapor pressure. This resulted in the empty portion of the bottle being very rich in ethanol vapor.

Translation: the ethanol fumes ignited as soon as the lit fuse of the firecracker came into contact with them. Unfortunatly, the lit firecracker was still in my hand. As soon as the firecracker's burning fuse moved over the bottle's opening a burst of flame shot forth like a jet engine's afterburner. It was really cool, except for the resulting 2nd degree burns on my thumb and first two fingers. It also sped up the rate at which the fuse was burning. Luckily, I'm pretty good at throwing my body out of harm's wa...KABLAMM!!

The fireball turned out to be less spectacular than I expected. Most of the ethanol had been consumed in the first fire. The firecracker mostly just shot really hot, really sticky goo around. Potentially useful, but not very awe-inspiring. My neighbor didn't even come out to see what the noise was.

-Blast


Seems like someone is still trying to justify his moniker.

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#162553 - 01/12/09 05:33 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: Dan_McI]
Desperado Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/01/08
Posts: 1530
Loc: DFW, Texas
Originally Posted By: Dan_McI
Originally Posted By: Blast
Hand sanitizer!

The plan was this:
1. Wait until dark.
2. Place mostly empty 1-gallon bottle of Purell hand sanitizer (67% ethanol) in the middle of my neighbor's driveway.
3. Drop a lit firecracker into the mostly empty bottle of Purell gelled alcohol.
4. Run out of range of the big, blue fireball I hoped to create.
5. Watch big blue fireball appear.
6. Continue watching as my neighbor runs out of his house to find his driveway engulfed in globs of flames.
7. Have good laugh with neighbor.

The plan was going smoothly up until step #3. It turns out even though the ethanol is gelled it has a very high vapor pressure. This resulted in the empty portion of the bottle being very rich in ethanol vapor.

Translation: the ethanol fumes ignited as soon as the lit fuse of the firecracker came into contact with them. Unfortunatly, the lit firecracker was still in my hand. As soon as the firecracker's burning fuse moved over the bottle's opening a burst of flame shot forth like a jet engine's afterburner. It was really cool, except for the resulting 2nd degree burns on my thumb and first two fingers. It also sped up the rate at which the fuse was burning. Luckily, I'm pretty good at throwing my body out of harm's wa...KABLAMM!!

The fireball turned out to be less spectacular than I expected. Most of the ethanol had been consumed in the first fire. The firecracker mostly just shot really hot, really sticky goo around. Potentially useful, but not very awe-inspiring. My neighbor didn't even come out to see what the noise was.

-Blast


Seems like someone is still trying to justify his moniker.


This is why sons #1&2 don't know about this website. They are bad enough without help.

Remind me to tell the MRE heater bomb story some day....
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I do the things that I must, and really regret, are unfortunately necessary.

RIP OBG

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#162563 - 01/12/09 10:25 AM Re: Easy to find and carry accelerant [Re: Blast]
Stu Offline
I am not a P.P.o.W.
Old Hand

Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
Originally Posted By: Blast
Hand sanitizer!

The plan was this:
1. Wait until dark.
2. Place mostly empty 1-gallon bottle of Purell hand sanitizer (67% ethanol) in the middle of my neighbor's driveway.
3. Drop a lit firecracker into the mostly empty bottle of Purell gelled alcohol.
4. Run out of range of the big, blue fireball I hoped to create.
5. Watch big blue fireball appear.
6. Continue watching as my neighbor runs out of his house to find his driveway engulfed in globs of flames.
7. Have good laugh with neighbor.

The plan was going smoothly up until step #3. It turns out even though the ethanol is gelled it has a very high vapor pressure. This resulted in the empty portion of the bottle being very rich in ethanol vapor.

Translation: the ethanol fumes ignited as soon as the lit fuse of the firecracker came into contact with them. Unfortunatly, the lit firecracker was still in my hand. As soon as the firecracker's burning fuse moved over the bottle's opening a burst of flame shot forth like a jet engine's afterburner. It was really cool, except for the resulting 2nd degree burns on my thumb and first two fingers. It also sped up the rate at which the fuse was burning. Luckily, I'm pretty good at throwing my body out of harm's wa...KABLAMM!!

The fireball turned out to be less spectacular than I expected. Most of the ethanol had been consumed in the first fire. The firecracker mostly just shot really hot, really sticky goo around. Potentially useful, but not very awe-inspiring. My neighbor didn't even come out to see what the noise was.

-Blast

Lesson 1, never, ever drink hot tea while reading a post from Blast , unless you are willing to wipe the spray from the monitor, desk and keyboard. grin grin
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