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#160293 - 12/28/08 02:24 PM Re: is there a better folder than rsk1 for the mon [Re: Russ]
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Yes, that was the first time I've heard of 154CM being outsourced. I'd like a few pointers to start at for research.
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#160298 - 12/28/08 03:01 PM Re: is there a better folder than rsk1 for the mon [Re: Stretch]
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154CM is an American made steel from Crucible. No one but Crucible can make it.

Did username_5 possibly mean that 154CM "blades" are being made in China from exported 154CM steel?



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#160345 - 12/29/08 02:48 AM Re: is there a better folder than rsk1 for the mon [Re: Bear_Claw_Chris_Lapp]
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Registered: 12/16/08
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Originally Posted By: Bear_Claw_Chris_Lapp

Did username_5 possibly mean that 154CM "blades" are being made in China from exported 154CM steel?


Yes, I believe that is what I meant. I was reading somewhere last night (don't recall where, sorry) about the various steels and what they have been/are used for, what they were developed for etc. The article mentioned that 154CM is no longer a steel one can assume is high end due to the way it is being hardened by some Chinese sources.

Doesn't mean the steel is bad, just that one has to be careful where/how the knife was made.

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#161085 - 01/03/09 03:48 PM Re: is there a better folder than rsk1 for the mon [Re: username_5]
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Any steel made to the same exact specifications will behave the same regardless of where it has been produced. As long as the composition is the same the mechanical properties will be the same as well.

Far more important is the question of heat treatment. That's as much an art as it is a science. It's the heat treatment that either brings out the best in the steel if done correctly... Or you end up with a blade that performs worse than it could because something wasn't done right.

Heat treating most stainless steels is inherently problematic because it takes a lot of expensive equipment and a good deal of experience (more than the Chinese shops producing SAK knockoffs can afford). That's the reason why a select few manufacturers can make much better blades out of the same steel than the competition.

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