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#156946 - 12/03/08 05:17 AM Re: Boiling water in the PSK tin [Re: ]
aeaas Offline
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Registered: 01/06/08
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Loc: Boulder, CO
Here's the manufactor, not much info there though, at least a product name though. product page

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#156947 - 12/03/08 05:48 AM Re: Boiling water in the PSK tin [Re: ]
Burncycle Offline
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Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 577
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Must be one hell of a pain in the a%% trying to boil any significant amount of water in an altoids tin(or similar size)

To prevent dying of thirst while you boil 1 oz of water at a time I hope you have a ziploc bag and some puri-tabs.

Not to mention the chance of burning yourself trying to manipulate such a small tin over a fire. You got more patience than I do. I would stick to the puri-tabs with the foil as a back-up.



Sorry I forgot to mention it, this isn't an altoids tin, it's the tin that came with the proforce survival kit (although I changed pretty much everything that originally came inside it)

It's about 4.75" x 3.5" x 1" and holds approx 1 cup of water (a bit less realistically since it wouldn't be full to the brim)

I also have gerber bags and micropur MP1 in it smile


Edited by Burncycle (12/03/08 05:50 AM)

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#156964 - 12/03/08 03:17 PM Re: Boiling water in the PSK tin [Re: ]
jaywalke Offline
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Registered: 12/22/07
Posts: 172
Loc: Appalachian mountains
Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
I've NEVER been able to get anything to boil or cook on those esbit stove tablets.


Really? I can boil two cups of water every time, nearly as fast as with an alcohol burner. I use a Ti wing stove, a MSR Titan kettle and a tight-fitting foil windscreen. I've used them for up to 5-day trips on the AT. I've also gotten rolling boils using a canteen stove and cup, and the original Esbit stove with a Sierra cup, as long as I make lids for the cups out of aluminum foil.

Maybe you've got a bad batch of cubes. Did you buy them all at once, or have you tried ones from different purchases?


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#156965 - 12/03/08 03:40 PM Re: Boiling water in the PSK tin [Re: jaywalke]
bigreddog Offline
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Registered: 07/02/06
Posts: 253
Flatten a loaf tin (the sort I get curries in from the take away over here) and pack it down in the kit. Much more robust than using foil, much better capacity than an altoid tin

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#157063 - 12/04/08 03:40 PM Re: Boiling water in the PSK tin [Re: Burncycle]
Brangdon Offline
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Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 1204
Loc: Nottingham, UK
Did you use a lid?

With the small stoves you really need whatever you are using as a pan to have a lid, to help keep in the heat. A typical PSK tin is wide and shallow, which gives proportionately more area from which to lose the heat so it needs a lid even more.

(But don't cook with an air-tight lid because it will go bang.)

A windshield helps, too, as you are aware. Even without, you probably got it hot enough to kill the germs.
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#157204 - 12/05/08 07:05 AM Re: Boiling water in the PSK tin [Re: Brangdon]
Burncycle Offline
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Interestingly enough I thought about that very subject about 3/4ths of the way through the test. It occured to me that there's an awful lot of surface area for it to radiate heat off quickly. I did end up putting the lid on it (slightly off center). The esbit was too far gone for it to boil after that but it may have gotten quite a bit hotter had I had the lid resting on it from the beginning.

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#157297 - 12/05/08 11:07 PM Re: Boiling water in the PSK tin [Re: Burncycle]
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Well, there may be a way to make a PSK tin that actually works for boiling.

Take a Nalgene bottle cup. Stash your gear in that. Using a side cutting can opener, take the end of a coffee can- it fits great as a lid, at least Maxwell House does. Couple of big rubber bands to keep the lid down, and a quart freezer bag or two to keep it dry. Won't fit in the pants pocket, but a jacket pocket, sure.
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