#157172 - 12/05/08 01:46 AM
Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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It seems some of the people involved in this were even more stupid and irresponsible than originally reported. Charges have been filed.
http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Dec04/0,4670,BoyShootsHimself,00.html
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#157175 - 12/05/08 01:53 AM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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Interesting, very interesting...
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#157192 - 12/05/08 03:22 AM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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Wow, What a mess. A crying shame.
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#157202 - 12/05/08 05:34 AM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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#157244 - 12/05/08 04:10 PM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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I'm still trying to grasp how an 8 year old could get the muzzle up that high, and still be squeezing the grip safety on an UZI???
A horrible thing, but I don't see how charges are going to help.
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#157322 - 12/06/08 02:30 AM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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My friend (not affiliated with those that let him fire it) saw the kid. He was jumping up and down asking his dad where the UZI was.
Evidentially, he really wanted to fire it.
Seeing how excited he was my friend even walked up to the kid and said "Be careful son, they aren't toys."
I'm not blaming the kid. My friend said he could see it coming and felt horrible when he found out. The father didn't do his job in this case. Neither did the person who gave him the gun.
My 2 cents...which in this economy isn't much.
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#157327 - 12/06/08 02:49 AM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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It's Friday night. How many 16 y/os are on the road in 'performance cars?'
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#157329 - 12/06/08 03:21 AM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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I'm not so sure anyone should be charged. In situations like this where a young person is dead...that alone on the conscience of the people is enough punishment. Maybe that's too soft. I don't know. That's what grand and trial juries are for. Personally, I consider the fact that those involved feel really bad about what happened is, at best, a mitigating factor in sentencing, not a defense as to their culpable negligence, if any. Jeff
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#157341 - 12/06/08 05:06 AM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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If nothing else, it should give one pause. We are all capable of 'getting stupid'
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#157353 - 12/06/08 12:19 PM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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If nothing else, it should give one pause. We are all capable of 'getting stupid' +1
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#157419 - 12/06/08 11:30 PM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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Exactly the point. Sixteen year olds shouldn't be in performance cars. Three year olds don't get to play with lighters. My dad and I watched a show essentially titled "what the **** were they thinking". One video was of a five year old getting a mini-motorcycle for his birthday. The parents put the kid on the bike, the kid roared off and ran into the tail gate of a near by parked pickup truck. Children and adolescents don't know how much physical control they have. They see things on TV or that adults do and they want to emulate them. To what extent are allowed to and at what point in their maturity is the responsibility of their parents and, failing that, the people with authority in the situation. Carnies don't let kids get on rides they aren't secure riding. Why should a person at a booth at a gun show get a pass because we have freedom of arms?
And lets face it, the authorities are doing the right thing here. They're not pushing for new laws, they're prosecuting under the laws we already have. There's already been a pretty egregious failure of parenting. There's also been a failure of responsible gun ownership. There was a failure of law enforcement personnel (since one of the people in charge of the situation was a police chief). Now its at the judicial system level.
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#157495 - 12/07/08 06:14 AM
Re: Update on 8-yr-old boy with the uzi
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"I'm not so sure anyone should be charged."
Why not? There were several people involved that apparently had the intelligence of roadkill. An 8-yr-old kid has had the top of his head blown off for no good reason. His father may have another kid or two he can kill off creatively, who knows?
"Gee, I'm sorry" just doesn't cut it.
There are people so stupid that they would do the same thing all over again! If nothing else, a court case may make other dolts who have the same idea realize that it may not be a good idea.
Maybe.
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