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#15224 - 04/24/03 08:52 PM What do you prepare for?
Anonymous
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What scenarios do you prepare for?

Urban security in normal times?
Urban security in times or social unrest?
Lost in the wilderness due to accident?
Dropped from a plane?
Lost at sea?
Weather catastrophe at home?
Weather catastrophe away from home?
Natural catastrophe other than weather?
Man-made catastrophe other than social unrest?
Social collapse?
TEOTWAWKI?

Just wondering.

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#15225 - 04/25/03 02:45 AM Re: What do you prepare for?
Eugene Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2995
Add to the above list:
Loss of job
Loss of home due to fire/flood/etc
I also put lost at sea and dropped from a plane as a low priority since I don't travel by plane or boat:)

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#15226 - 04/25/03 01:21 PM Re: What do you prepare for?
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I don't know if I have identified specifically what I am preparing for. I do know I am not preparing for TEOTWAWKI. Too invovled for me.

I would say my primary goal is to have enough supplies and information on hand for my family to easily survive and thrive in our home for several weeks without utilities and resupply from normal commerical stores. I assume the roads will be unpassable or unreliable. I expect the weather to be severe so we keep alternate heating, cooking, lighting, and water supplies on hand. The kids and I periodically take out various supplies and test them in the backyard as a game. They learn and the equipment gets tested.

I expect there to be everyday problems as my family goes about our life. So in the vehicle I carry supplies to help us cope. My oldest playes sports and occasionally gets injured. So far he has twisted both ankles and broken his arm. The splint kit with ice pack has been used several times. The weather turns cooler than expected so I have extra wind breakers, blankets, candles and matches in the car. I keep a folding shovel to help dig us out when at the beach or if slide off the road in the winter. During the warmer months I usually have several additional water bottles in the vehicle.

As part of a Search and Rescue team I go hiking about in unfamilar terrority. Everything from suburban neighborhoods, to large farm fields and acres of timber. I carry supplies to allow me to "camp out if I get turned around and a might confused" while searching.

When my family goes on road trips, I throw an extra duffle in the vehicle with tow straps, road flares, extra tools, jackets, etc just in case something unexpected happens. I have road maps of our state and the 5 nearest states in the vehicle.

When we go to the beach or lake, I bring along life jackets for every family member. I am out of shape and practice but I completed life guard training years ago. I train swiftwater rescue techniques with the rescue squad on a regular basis which includes basic life guard skills.

A week ago I took a building collapse shoring class as part of my rescue squad training. I have about half the state required materials for building collapse for a rescue squad on hand at my house in case I need to "help out" around the neighbordhood.

I used to be an EMT. I keep a a basic first aid around most of the time and keep more indepth supplies at home. My wife took 40 hr First Responder class back in the late 80's. She is a good helper but does not remember much of the class.

As part of a technical rescue team that provides building collapse, confined space, trench, swiftwater, rope, and search response, I train constantly to keep my skills current. At the same time I want my family to be able to care for itself when I am called away to help others.

I would say that I try to live the Boy Scout motto "Be Prepared" by always having a few things available. I identify exits and stairways when entering buildings, I count doorways between my hotel room and the stairway so can find the stairs in the dark crawling on my hands in a smoke covered hallway. I choose parking spots that are under the light when using public parking. I try to always have at least $20 cash on hand to handle the unexpected. I look at the indicator dial on fire extingishers as a I walk by to see if they are still charged. I occassionally check the inspection card to see when last inspected. I carry a Leatherman everyday.

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#15227 - 04/25/03 02:34 PM Re: What do you prepare for?
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Living in SoCal, I am always mindful of The Big One, a 7+ earthquake, and so I try and remain ready for that. Also on my list are wildfires spreading into town and various forms of social unrest. Since I get outdoors a fair amount, I try and equip myself appropriately for those occasions, which most likely would require an extra night or two in the woods and some measure of medical treatment. I try to be ready to help others in local incidents - help with first aid before the fire department arrives, and the like. Basically, if you are ready for an earthquake, you are ready for just about anything.

Primarily I keep my outdoor gear organized and ready to use (not always successfully, I might add). If the house is destroyed, we will set up in the yard and camp out. Under the bed I keep a crowbar, a working light, a jumsuit, and old sneakers, along with the gas shutoff tool. I always know where my glasses are. Food for about a month for the entire family is always on hand. We all review our plans periodically.

Over the years, we have had little mini events which I feel keep us sharp - we were on the edge of the Northridge quake, doing without electricity for a day. Ten years ago, a wildfire burned within a quarter mile of our house, and I had the van loaded and ready to drive away if necessary. We felt good about the priority list we had developed for such an event. First aid training and gear comes in handy all the time.

I do occasional trips to the Channel Islands - two coming up next month - and water safety is an issue. The vessels I travel on are USCG certified, properly equipped, and I know the crews are competent, so I don't worry much there. I always have my personal PSK items within reach when at sea, especially a Leatherman tool. The papers today are carrying a story about the recovery of a missing fishing vessel - the crew of two is lost. It makes me thoughtful, because I have seen the boat around the harbor, although I did not know the crew.

You gotta be prepared...


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#15228 - 04/25/03 04:01 PM Re: What do you prepare for?
Tjin Offline
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Registered: 04/08/02
Posts: 1821
well mine preparation is primarily EDC type of preparenes. Some of mine EDC stuff "saved" me a few times, like mine LED light, fellow students tend to turn the lights off, wenn i'm answering nature's call, usually wenn i'm answering a big call <img src="images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
Mine tools come in handy to very often. Mine FAK helped me out a few times wenn i was injured.all those things are just usefull in everyday life. Mine PSK is a lot less usefull for everyday, but i sometimes end up in deserted places, so i case i can't get back i got the right stuff with me ( i still have to make a "urban" PSK... ). The rest of mine survival gear is for wenn go in the wild on purpose and want a little bit more protection. So i don't have survival stuff for any disasters, exsept for wilderness problems, proberbly due to mine low budget. But i proberbly won't make to many kits because there ain't much treaths were i live.
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#15229 - 04/25/03 04:29 PM Re: What do you prepare for?
gear_freak Offline
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Registered: 09/25/02
Posts: 239
Probably like most posters to this forum, I'm pretty well prepared for urban situations in non-crisis times just with my EDC. However, this forum has greatly increased my awareness of the more exotic eventualities, such as the ones listed by miniMe. As a result, I prepared a Bug-Out Scenario worksheet, with input from some of you folks, and posted it on the web for easy access. Just like our kits, I'm constantly tinkering with the list:

http://www.roblester.com/rob/bugout.htm

On another note, I'm finding it challenging to "complete the circle" on this type of preparedness thinking when it comes to my children. I have a 3-year old and a newborn. I'm sure other parents out there can attest to how long it takes sometimes to get little ones ready to leave the house, even for just a simple outing. Sometimes I wonder how quickly we could do it if our lives depended on it. I suppose a drill is in order.
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#15230 - 04/25/03 06:13 PM Re: What do you prepare for?
Anonymous
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I do not visit cities all that often as I live in the country and we are rarely/never effected by natural disasters/freak weather conditions, so I am primaraly preparing for wilderness survival although not nessesaraly "Lost in the wilderness due to accident?"

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#15231 - 04/26/03 06:08 AM Re: What do you prepare for?
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
At some point preparations cease to be this intellectual artifact outside of our daily reality. I have my outdoor stuff and, like Don earthquakes and fire are the realities in our cities. Civil unrest in our nieghborhoods of Ventura county would likely be caffiene addicted yuppies finding the local Starbucks closed <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> My rifle has a fascinating eggnest down the barrel. I am hoping to see what emerges before a black helicopter hovers over my apt again. Teotwawki, or whatever Kokopelli's brother's name is, is not a concern. The story of the Spartans should be remembered. They conquered a larger greek society ( the Helots,) and became a warrior society to preserve their status. Thats fine if you want to spend 24/7 as a slave to the slaves. I prefer Ouzo and stuffed grape leaves <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#15232 - 04/26/03 12:56 PM Re: What do you prepare for?
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In terms of wilderness scenarios about the worst case for me would be a broken leg while on a hike off the beaten track.
That actually happened to my dad on a hunting trip in Wisconson. He ended up dragging himself a few miles with a shattered shin. That left an impression. A simple hike can turn into an ordeal and I do lots of "simple hikes". I make sure I can signal, drink water, stay warm, or spend the night if I go out in the bush.

I take self-defense very seriously. Back in PA I have a CCW and usually carry. My minimum is a .38 special J-frame revolver but my normal carry gun is a Kahr K-9 or Glock 19. Here in Brazil I don't have a CCW (yet) but I do carry a Spyderco Endura or Newt Livesay neck knife as an EDC.

As far as our home goes I think it important to be able to avoid social unrest. About the worst case scenario for Brazil is a Police strike. When that happens it is very dangerous to venture outside and you have to bunker down and prepare for a home invasion. We have had one home invasion in my apartment building this year. I keep two loaded revovers in the house and often carry at home at night.

We keep at least a weeks supply of food and water in and I keep our camping gear organized in case we ever have to leave. Mac

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#15233 - 04/26/03 11:14 PM Locusts, Plague, Etc.
Anonymous
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I've prepared for the sorts of things that might befall the Nation's Capitol. This site has helped tremendously. Four things have been key to my preparation: FEMA's website; Equipped to Survive, this forum, and Rob's handy-dandy Excel spreadsheet. Thanks!

As for the TEOWAWKI, or whatever, I prepare on a daily basis -- I pray. I pray that it doesn't happen and I pray for salvation if it does. Is there any other way to prepare?

atty_guy

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