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#152557 - 10/20/08 10:06 PM Re: He is going naked [Re: Russ]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Originally Posted By: Russ
If Chisel's friend can't be convinced to carry a small flashlight, what's the point of lists of stuff that we carry.
Lol, yes, good point. Good luck to him.

HJ
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#152675 - 10/21/08 02:51 PM Re: He is going naked [Re: Russ]
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Originally Posted By: Russ
If Chisel's friend can't be convinced to carry a small flashlight, what's the point of lists of stuff that we carry.


cuz we luvs us sum gear lists. grin the only thing more fun than hunting down the next most awesome piece of gear is showing off about it to other gearheads.


Edited by Erik_B (10/21/08 02:52 PM)
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#152723 - 10/21/08 05:59 PM Re: He is going naked [Re: Erik_B]
Hikin_Jim Offline
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Originally Posted By: Erik_B
Originally Posted By: Russ
If Chisel's friend can't be convinced to carry a small flashlight, what's the point of lists of stuff that we carry.


cuz we luvs us sum gear lists. grin the only thing more fun than hunting down the next most awesome piece of gear is showing off about it to other gearheads.
I think he's got us pegged. lol laugh
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#152754 - 10/21/08 08:40 PM Re: He is going naked [Re: Hikin_Jim]
Russ Offline
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My min EDC is my Mission Wallet which carries minimalist gear that I use during the day. It isn't about carrying emergency or survival gear; this is stuff that's nice to have for normal everyday events.

Why carry a knife? Because sometimes things need to be cut, packages opened. Why carry a flashlight? Because a natural event each day is called "night" -- it's dark. This is not rocket science.

Carrying a big survival kit to guys who aren't us is a hard sell. Carrying a small EDC kit of things that can be used everyday is a lot easier. Then again, some guys prefer empty pockets.
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#153000 - 10/24/08 02:40 AM Re: He is going naked [Re: Russ]
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Why carry a flashlight? Because a natural event each day is called "night" -- it's dark.


Exactly, and even if it was day time, there are places that are dark even during the day.

Also, the unexpected can happen.
Lights are not guranteed to be there at all times.

Last week I was working late in office when power went out. Thanks I had my little trusty LED flashlight to find my way around and shut things down before leaving the building.

I wonder why many ppl find this as hard to understand as rocket science. Unexpected things (or emergencies) can and do happen.

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#153041 - 10/24/08 01:52 PM Re: He is going naked [Re: Chisel]
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Registered: 08/28/04
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Originally Posted By: Chisel
Why carry a flashlight? Because a natural event each day is called "night" -- it's dark.

I don't usually fly at night. But I have a rule of thumb- if I have enough fuel to last until dark, I need to have my flashlights easily accessible from the pilot's seat. Maybe not as many as if I were actually planning to fly at night, but I should at least have a headlight and a hand flashlight in my pockets, with tested batteries.
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#153064 - 10/24/08 03:52 PM Re: He is going naked [Re: Chisel]
MartinFocazio Offline

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I'd do the same as him.
There's a point where you have to trust your team. I don't bring my own fire hoses or extrication tools to the call. I expect - no I require - those things, and in my experience, we're covered for the task. If he's done the trip before, and they have Sat Phones and some provisions, why haul more crap?

You gotta have a team, a trust network and be a part of it.

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