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#150356 - 09/29/08 02:40 PM A Very Sad Day
paramedicpete Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
A tragic loss of life:
Medevac Crash - FNP

Medevac Crash - FF Close Calls

Medivac Crash - Balt Sun

Medevac Crash WUSA9

I have flown on Troopers 3, 5 and 8 and have trained with Trooper 2 personnel, they are and will remain consummate professionals and the loss of these noble individuals will be felt throughout the Law Enforcement, EMS and Rescue community. My prayers and thoughts go out to the families, co-workers and friends of the Troopers, EMT and patients being transported.

Pete



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#150374 - 09/29/08 05:20 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: paramedicpete]
Greg_Sackett Offline
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Registered: 12/14/01
Posts: 225
Loc: KC, MO
Pete,

When I saw the crash on the news I hope that it wasn't one that you were on. I am glad to hear you weren't but am still saddened by the loss of those who constantly risk their lives to save others.

Please pass our condolences on to your community.

Greg

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#150410 - 09/29/08 10:12 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: ]
CJK Offline
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Registered: 08/14/05
Posts: 601
Loc: FL, USA
Pete...
Glad you are ok and not 'involved'.....

God speed to them and their families. The badge is draped.
CJK

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#150417 - 09/29/08 10:44 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: NightHiker]
Troglodyte007
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I too, know what it is like to lose friends... I have felt that pain. They are gone but they are not forgotten.

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#150419 - 09/29/08 11:19 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: paramedicpete]
Jeff_M Offline
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Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 665
Loc: Northwest Florida
I lost three brothers when AirHeart 1 crashed into Choctawhatchee Bay not so long ago. Many of my friends continue to fly. They are all in our thoughts and prayers.

I am deeply alarmed by this recent spate of aeromedical helicopter crashes.

Jeff

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#150465 - 09/30/08 01:07 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: Greg_Sackett]
paramedicpete Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
Greg and all,

Thanks you, I will pass along everyone’s thoughts and prayers.

From the early reports, it is looking more and more like a combination of the weather turning bad during the course of the flight combined with the fact that Trooper 2 did not have a terrain awareness warning system leading to the inability of the pilot to gauge his distance to the tall trees in the crash area. The MSP-Medevac system is currently grounded until further notice, pending the completion of at least a preliminary investigation. The state is also looking at the current dispatch criteria for Medevac transport vs. ground transport, as well as the whole concept of having a publicly funded MSP-Medevac program (the first and only one in the country). Unfortunately, it is political hot-potato of finger pointing right now.

Our team works mainly with Trooper 3, which is hangered in Frederick and generally is backed up by Troopers 5 or 8.

Pete

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#150496 - 09/30/08 04:47 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: paramedicpete]
Mike_in_NKY Offline
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Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 121
Loc: KY
Pete,

When I used to live in MD I saw those choppers every day. It was nice to know that those resources were available to help me or my loved ones. Fortunately I never need those services.

My condolences go to the families involved and their working partners. Thanks for all that you do.

Mike

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#150503 - 09/30/08 06:06 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: Mike_in_NKY]
JohnE Offline
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Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 601
Loc: Southern Cal
Pete,

From an EMT in California, please express my condolences to all involved.

My badge will be banded in black at work tomorrow.

John E
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JohnE

"and all the lousy little poets
comin round
tryin' to sound like Charlie Manson"

The Future/Leonard Cohen


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#150512 - 09/30/08 06:51 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: JohnE]
Stu Offline
I am not a P.P.o.W.
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Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
Pete,
As a former firefighter/EMT, I feel your sadness. Know my thoughts and wishes are there for you and your brothers/sisters.
Stu


Edited by SBRaider (09/30/08 10:47 PM)
Edit Reason: spelling
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Our most important survival tool is our brain, and for many, that tool is way underused! SBRaider
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#150519 - 09/30/08 07:29 PM Re: A Very Sad Day [Re: Stu]
wildman800 Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2846
Loc: La-USA
I can't say it any better than SBRaider,,,,my prayers to all involved and to the community of first responders! Bo
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QMC, USCG (Ret)
The best luck is what you make yourself!

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#151192 - 10/07/08 07:24 PM Re: Rewarding Weekend - Remembering The Survivors [Re: paramedicpete]
paramedicpete Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
This was a very busy and heart rending weekend. I attended the funeral for MSP-TFC, Flight Paramedic Mickey Lippy on Saturday and witnessed the incredible compassion from thousands of LEOs, Firefighters and Citizens from all over the country. The 20-mile funeral procession from his Volunteer Fire Station to the cemetery was lined with fire/police units and Citizens waving flags, hands over hearts and signs signaling their feeling of loss. Unfortunately, I was unable to attend the funerals for the other two, but know that they too received the honor they were due.

This weekend was also the National Fallen Firefighters Memorial at the National Fire Academy in Emmetsburg, Maryland. I thought I would share parts of a letter written by the President of the Frederick County Volunteer Fire/Rescue Association.

Pete


A letter from President Micky Fyock, FCVFRA

Courage and Honor comes in different ways. It also comes in many sizes. We as first responders all know that the next bell we answer could be our last. We know this and we freely choose and accept this fact. What we sometimes forget or overlook or even take for granted is the courage it takes from our love ones. This weekend is a reminder of their endless love and support they give and the pain they must endure as survivors. We as responders may give the ultimate price. But think of the price our loves one pay. Think of the hardship that is bestowed on them. Just think of the courage it takes for survivors to travel to a strange place and be with strangers to relive their pain. But they do!

I have even met some that come alone.I met A young girl with A baby from Texas. This young survivor was by herself. She told me she was from a small town. Her husband was a Fireman and commuted to a bigger town and was killed in action. The town took up a collection to help her come to the event. It doesn't take survivors long after they arrive to realize they truly belong to an extended family.

I want to thank the National Fallen Firefighters Foundation for their dedication and commitment. This dedication and commitment comes from the heart and is a testament that all over this great Nation that our Fire and Rescue family is strong and when the chips are down we stand together. I know this works because later I saw this young girl with other survivors and she was smiling a little. I am so proud of our Frederick County Departments and the personnel both career and volunteer. l am equally proud that we are the host County. What higher or more important honor could this County ever be task with.


On Thursday night we welcomed the returning survivors whom help the new families arriving on Friday. These survivors amaze me. They travel from all over this great Nation just to give a helping hand. On Friday night we welcomed the new survivors. Frederick County has the honor of having a welcome table. The welcome table consists of tee shirts donated by local Fire and Rescue Departments and also Departments from all over the Country. A welcome bag is given to each new survivor family consisting of apples and jellies…. The smiles in the survivors face were priceless. There are also other items on the table such as mugs, Department Pins or anything anyone wanted to donate were also available. Late on Saturday night we greeted the survivors after they return from the Candle Light Service with a midnight snacks before they retire for the evening. The left over items from Friday night are put out along with some fresh homemade cakes and cookies…

… I would like to share one experience my wife and I had. On Friday night my wife and other volunteers were setting up the welcome table. My wife came to me with tears in her eyes. I ask her what was wrong. A young boy about 10 yrs old came up and ask her if he could please have one of the tee shirts from my Department Woodsboro Co #16. The young man told my wife that his father was Captain 16 from Charleston S.C and died in a fire. I don't have to tell you that I found that little man and his family and they were taken care of personally. I sat with that little man and his family for a while… In closing I encourage everyone to get involved next year. I will assure you that you will get a booster shot of the heart and understand more than ever that we best honor those whom gave the ultimate sacrifice and their surviving families by continuing to serve. During the year when your Departments order tee shirts please order some extra. Especially smaller children sizes. As my wife and I learned first hand. I cannot begin to tell you what it is like to walk into a large room that is dedicated to the children. To see the fantastic Fire Department clowns from all over our service entertaining our littlest survivors. To set and watch them make a remembrance box of their love ones. Words alone cannot describe the feeling. I truly believe and hope when the survivors return to their homes that the Foundation and Frederick County will have a special place in their hearts as they do in ours.

In the end it should be a great comfort to all of us that if something does happen that there is a Foundation to help our love ones. I thank each and every one of you that helped in the healing process of the broken hearts of our extended Fire and Rescue families. I also understand our brave men and women in uniform overseas protecting our freedom was able to watch the event via the internet. I also understand Eileen from the Foundation is in need of our prayers. May we all pray for these special people and their families and may they " ALL COME HOME".soon. Thank You.



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#154854 - 11/11/08 12:40 AM Re: Rewarding Weekend - Remembering The Survivors [Re: paramedicpete]
Mike_in_NKY Offline
Member

Registered: 05/22/07
Posts: 121
Loc: KY
Pete,

The NTSB released this press release today regarding a public hearing on EMS Operations. There will be a webcast if you are not able to attend.

http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2008/081110.html

I hope that it will help keep EMS folks safer.

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