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#145664 - 08/24/08 06:29 PM Pet meds for humans?
CityBoyGoneCountry Offline
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Is this too good to be true? Non-prescription antibiotics?

Fish Mox Forte is 500 mg capsules of Amoxicillin. I remember Amoxicillin. The doctor once prescribed it to my son.

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#145668 - 08/24/08 06:39 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
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No my brothers got some.

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#145672 - 08/24/08 06:48 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: leemann]
wildman800 Offline
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pet meds are normally not as refined or ground as fine as humans require in order to be safe.
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#145694 - 08/24/08 09:09 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: NightHiker]
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Originally Posted By: NightHiker
My official answer is: as an absolute life or death, last resort maybe.

+1 -- Agreed entirely. Even in cases of last resort, converting dosages can be complicated and the delivery mechanisms can vary enormously. It would be complicated business figuring out what dosage you're actually receiving and how quickly and that can be very dangerous.

This is likely one I wouldn't pursue without advance knowledge. There are drugs that are identical in their human and for example, dog versions, but if you don't know this, you're playing with fire.
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#145703 - 08/24/08 10:05 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: Fitzoid]
red Offline
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Originally Posted By: Fitzoid


This is likely one I wouldn't pursue without advance knowledge. There are drugs that are identical in their human and for example, dog versions, but if you don't know this, you're playing with fire.


I'm always amazed at the willingness of many to risk their health to save a buck, yet those same people wouldn't be caught DEAD (sorry, bad choice of words) using a no-name brand part for their souped up car. I have a brother who actually fits that bill. To each his own, I guess.
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#145718 - 08/24/08 10:53 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: red]
CityBoyGoneCountry Offline
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Originally Posted By: red
I'm always amazed at the willingness of many to risk their health to save a buck


I'm not looking to save a buck. I'm looking to get my hands on something that I can't get any other way. Something that could possibly save my life one day.

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#145719 - 08/24/08 10:55 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: ]
RobertRogers Offline
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There are MANY uninsured / underinsured Americans who are desperate for the drugs they need but cannot pay high prices for them. I know of several people who routinely seek medicines intended for animals.

Welcome to America, the land of "plenty".
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#145732 - 08/24/08 11:39 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
red Offline
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Originally Posted By: CityBoyGoneCountry
Originally Posted By: red
I'm always amazed at the willingness of many to risk their health to save a buck


I'm not looking to save a buck. I'm looking to get my hands on something that I can't get any other way. Something that could possibly save my life one day.


Can't get any other way?????? You can get viagra and Lortab and all sorts of incredibly controlled drugs on the 'net, and you can't find a way to get antibiotics? Of course, you may need to have the drug tested as to its potency and purity, but hey, amoxicillin is amoxicillin, right? Sand, snot, whatever else they put in it, who cares? You're just *ingesting the drug*, no biggie.

Since you are not looking to save a buck, just go to your primary care physician, pay him the copay for seeing him, and ask him straight up: "How does one obtain a prescription of a broad spectrum antibiotic for life-threatening emergencies for my expedition to _____________?" Many physicians have samples that they give away for free. But since you're not trying to save a buck, be sure to refuse the free sample and insist on a prescription that you can fill at your local pharmacy. If you're not going out of the country (to the third world), it will probably be more difficult to convince the prescriber that you will be in a position where you have to save your own life one day by taking a course of antibiotics. It would be up to you to convince him/her. Are you undertaking very long expeditions to summit peaks? Visiting third world countries? If it's just to add to your first-aid kit and you are not involved in serious pursuits like the above, the prescriber may not say "yes."

BTW, Just how much training do you have in self-diagnosing your infection? Or were you going to wing it and take it just as a precaution?

Are you aware that M.D.'s, with all their expertise and access to advanced labs, etc. sometimes have to try another antibiotic because the first one failed? That should give you pause to think.

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#145734 - 08/24/08 11:42 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: ]
red Offline
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Yeah. Let me try this amoxicillin for this bone infection! That oughta do it!
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#145736 - 08/24/08 11:48 PM Re: Pet meds for humans? [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
ironraven Offline
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I wouldn't bother with stuff for fish, but for farm animal grade meds, I know a lot of people who've done it. The joys of going to an tech/ag focused college AND highschool. For what it is worth, I wouldn't try it becuase I don't know the meds well enough, even with the PDR at my side. The big thing would be concentration, not total volume, and the inactive agents. But honestly, when I took my first look at Paragon's STOMP, my first thought was that he'd gone through a farm supply place for quite a bit of it. (Right, wrong, doesn't really matter- still a damn good kit.)

That being said, instruments, dressings and the like are pretty much the same. Vetwrap is bulker than I like to carry, but it is nice stuff. And I'd bet money that a lot of the suture kits you find on eBay saw the inside of a feed store.
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