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#144267 - 08/15/08 03:45 PM Re: Virus alert CNN [Re: MartinFocazio]
haertig Offline

Registered: 03/13/05
Posts: 2244
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: martinfocazio
...EXCEPT - that some sites have a 3-strikes you're locked policy, so if you're on the REAL site, you enter the wrong PW once, you now only have 2 tries to get it right. Maybe not a big deal, but sometimes I'm all fumble fingers.

I have a three strike rule on my home Linux boxes. I only have the SSH port open, you get three attempts to authenticate and then you're locked out - permanently (at least until I manually release the locked out IP). Also, to authenticate, you get a shot a entering passwords, however no password will ever work since I only accept pubkey authentication. And ssh is configured to only allow my personal login, and no others, remote access. Any other services I want to us on these Linux boxes are configured to listen only on the localhost adapter, so I have to first tunnel in with ssh before getting to them. Firewalls and routers block these other service ports from the outside world as well as me having their services attached only to localhost. As I said in an earlier post: "LAYERS of security". You can never get things perfectly secure, but you can make unauthorized access more difficult.

All my setup is obviously to protect ME from incoming threats. It's much harder to protect yourself from making a mistake when connecting outgoing to some (possibly spoofed) website. Your brain is the biggest asset there. No "software security suite" is going to protect you from your own ignorance. You might get a little help from security suite software here and there, but it's certainly not idiot-proof or bullet-proof protection.

#144276 - 08/15/08 04:27 PM Re: Virus alert CNN [Re: haertig]
Hikin_Jim Offline

Registered: 10/12/07
Posts: 1804
Loc: Southern California
Originally Posted By: haertig
Anytime I go to a sensitive site (my bank, etc.) I make a habit of first attempting to login using a bad password - on purpose. If you somehow got spoofed or received a bum DNS reply, the bogus site will probably let you in with any password. That would be your clue that something has gone amiss. You have to have multiple layers of protection, topped off with the most important layer of all - your common sense and wariness.
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#144281 - 08/15/08 04:57 PM Re: Virus alert CNN [Re: Hikin_Jim]
thseng Offline
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Registered: 03/24/06
Posts: 900
Loc: NW NJ
Re entering an incorrect password on the first try: I would expect that a phishing site would take the username and password you entered, log in to the real site and redirect you there so you don't realize you've been phished. Or at least that's they way I would do it if I where cyberscum.

Perhaps they don't bother, knowing that many of the people who fell for the phish wouldn't realize it anyway.

I don't have a source handy, but I seem to recall that most identity theft is committed by family or friends of the victim.
- Tom S.

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