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#142994 - 08/06/08 03:43 AM Red Feather Butter
Todd W Offline
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So, red feather butter is praised all over the web for butter than can be stored w/out being refrigerated and it actually tastes good.

I got some, tried it, awesome.. tastes good! Last for years, doesn't need to be cool.. perfect long-term food that I can use daily and cost almost the same as normal butter.

I started reading the label, and that's when I made the discovery....

After opening place in separate container and refrigerate.

What's going on here? If I can't refrigerate it from when I buy it what makes them think I`ll be able to after I open it?

Does anyone know if this is a safety message or is it REALLY required?

(I know with store butter on sticks I've left that in my cabinet so it stay soft.)

I just thought this was very very odd.
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#142999 - 08/06/08 06:03 AM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: Todd W]
Joy Offline
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Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 67
You could use a "Butter Bell (pot, crock)." This explains what they are:

http://www.reluctantgourmet.com/butter_crock.htm

http://www.webexhibits.org/butter/crocks.html

Here are some tips for using a butter bell:
http://www.thekitchn.com/thekitchn/good-questions/good-question-do-butter-bells-really-work-014288

Here is Emile Henry's. Click on the different colors to see the pot in that color. It also comes in white, but doesn't show that on this page:
http://www.surlatable.com/product/id/126791.do

Emile Henry Couleurs Butter Pot, White
http://www.pronto.com/Emile-Henry-Couleurs-Butter-Pot-10800097622-CG

Hope that helps.

Joy



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#143006 - 08/06/08 10:52 AM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: Joy]
Nishnabotna Offline
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Registered: 12/31/07
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Loc: Nebraska
You have to refrigerate most canned foods after opening them. Why would this one be any different?
Here's another source for butter bells
http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/butter-...arble-dish.aspx
I've been trying to figure out how to keep the warm soft butter from running down into the water. Maybe I keep my house to warm in the summer.

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#143007 - 08/06/08 11:24 AM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: Nishnabotna]
nursemike Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
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Loc: wellington, fl
If they made butter so it didn't go rancid afetr a while, it wouldn't taste good. Food scientists have been working on this issue, and spreadability, for a century or so-that's where margarine came from, and the first versions of margarine had ground up udders in them. If you seek a spread that keeps well at room temp, has consistent texture and is useful in multiple kitchen applications, learn to like toast with Crisco.
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#143023 - 08/06/08 03:42 PM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: nursemike]
Todd W Offline
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Nishnabotna & nursemike - Maybe you guys have not heard of this but it's mentioned ALL over the web as awesome tasting butter that needs NO refrigeration. I just did another search and found that while it says that people are still leaving it out on the counter.
Interesting.


Thanks for the Butter Bells info smile That looks interesting.
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#143027 - 08/06/08 04:08 PM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: Todd W]
BillLiptak Offline
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Registered: 12/19/07
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At my house we leave the butter out all the time. Land of Lakes, salted in the one pound tubs. Longest it lasts is three weeks and ive never had a problem with it going rancid. My DW, when we first moved in together was horrified. "You have to refrigerate butter, it says so right on the package!" To wit I told her you dont, watch. She is STILL to this day put off by it. Last week she bought a new butter with a canola oil blend. Supposed to make it spreadable and we can keep it in the fridge. Fail. Not that spreadable, and when she left it out with the other butter the oil seperated from the butter.

-Bill Liptak

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#143032 - 08/06/08 04:28 PM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: BillLiptak]
MartinFocazio Offline

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Originally Posted By: BillLiptak
At my house we leave the butter out all the time. Land of Lakes, salted in the one pound tubs. L


Us too, and we buy nothing but Organic butter. We don't refrigerate eggs either.

The reason the hysteria about refrigerating butter and such is because "aseptic" production leaves the way open for all kinds of amazingly virulent nasties to move in quickly. We also drink nothing but raw milk, and sometimes, it gradually turns sour, after which it becomes another ingredient for baking. It does not suddenly turn into a horror-blob the way pasteurized milk does AND it's the only liquid milk I can tolerate without some serious turbulence in my tummy.


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#143035 - 08/06/08 04:39 PM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: MartinFocazio]
Jeff_M Offline
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Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 665
Loc: Northwest Florida
Originally Posted By: martinfocazio
Originally Posted By: BillLiptak
At my house we leave the butter out all the time. Land of Lakes, salted in the one pound tubs. L


Us too, and we buy nothing but Organic butter. We don't refrigerate eggs either.

The reason the hysteria about refrigerating butter and such is because "aseptic" production leaves the way open for all kinds of amazingly virulent nasties to move in quickly. We also drink nothing but raw milk, and sometimes, it gradually turns sour, after which it becomes another ingredient for baking. It does not suddenly turn into a horror-blob the way pasteurized milk does AND it's the only liquid milk I can tolerate without some serious turbulence in my tummy.



I'm not trying to be the least bit critical or judgmental, but I would NEVER do that personally. Call me paranoid. I guess I've been influenced by my studies in public health and disease vectors (not specifically referring to dairy products) I presume you are close to and familiar with the source?

The real benefits of pasteurization apply to mass production, transportation, distribution and storage issues, not local stuff fresh off the farm, anyway. Nonetheless, it has prevented untold thousands of deaths and illnesses.

So, how do you feel about irradiation of food? I'm all for it, as It appears to be far safer than chemical based preservatives.

Jeff

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#143036 - 08/06/08 04:40 PM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: nursemike]
Henry_Porter Offline
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Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 111
Originally Posted By: nursemike
... the first versions of margarine had ground up udders in them. If you seek a spread that keeps well at room temp, has consistent texture and is useful in multiple kitchen applications, learn to like toast with Crisco.


Margarine with ground up udders or toast spread with Crisco -- nursemike, you might be onto a new weight-loss diet called "I Think I'll Just Skip Breakfast Thankyouverymuch." crazy

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#143039 - 08/06/08 05:05 PM Re: Red Feather Butter [Re: Henry_Porter]
Jeff_M Offline
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Registered: 07/18/07
Posts: 665
Loc: Northwest Florida
Originally Posted By: Henry_Porter
Originally Posted By: nursemike
... the first versions of margarine had ground up udders in them. If you seek a spread that keeps well at room temp, has consistent texture and is useful in multiple kitchen applications, learn to like toast with Crisco.


Margarine with ground up udders or toast spread with Crisco -- nursemike, you might be onto a new weight-loss diet called "I Think I'll Just Skip Breakfast Thankyouverymuch." crazy


Now, Henry, you sit down and eat your breakfast like a good boy. Would you like some fried chicken embryos to with your criscoed and uddered toast? How about some fresh brewed Kopi Luwak coffee?

Jeff

The World's Most Expensive Coffee is From Beans Cycled Through an Indonesian Monkey's Digestive System-Truth!
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/k/kopiluwak.htm

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