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#131643 - 04/30/08 07:57 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: Paul810]
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M1A or an M1.
Or, if you prefer a carbine, the SKS. That might be easier on your weight limit.
That's my route anyway. Everyone will have a different opinion.

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#131644 - 04/30/08 07:58 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: Paul810]
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I've heard good things about the Saigas myself but I have no practical first hand experience with them. This is sad since Tromix is located nearby and I consistently hear positive things about his work.
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#131648 - 04/30/08 08:07 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: wildman800]
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Actuall, the Grand has an eight round clip. It is kinda heavy, but not all that much more than a M-16A2 heavy barrel.

I would love to have a Springfield Armory M1A, just 'cuz I loved the M-14, but they are pretty pricey.

Altho I am not a fan of bugging out, and am not sure that a long arm goes with a BOB at all, I suspect that any quality bolt action in .308 would do just fine. And a bolt will probably stay off of the anti-gunners hit list the longest...
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#131650 - 04/30/08 08:17 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
I would love to have a Springfield Armory M1A, just 'cuz I loved the M-14, but they are pretty pricey.


+1. But I wouldn't know which one to pick! smile

Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
...And a bolt will probably stay off of the anti-gunners hit list the longest...


Another +1.
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#131654 - 04/30/08 08:23 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: 7point82]
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"...I wouldn't know which one to pick..."

I really like the shorty version (can't recall just this second what it is called, and too lazy to google it). Last time I handled one my wife said to buy it, fool that I am I passed...
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#131661 - 04/30/08 08:40 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: Paul810]
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I guess it all depends of what type of shooting you do(close in or long range) but the Styer scout I have fits most of your criteria.

I usually get long winded on these types of threads so I will refrain, but I highly recomend the scout in .308 with a good Leopold.

I love guns........

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#131665 - 04/30/08 09:09 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: Taurus]
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Hands down Mary Ann is it. I read an article about the show once, she got many times the fan mail Tina Louise (ginger) did.



I agree that a bolt action will stay off the anti-gunners radar longer then a center fire auto.


I use to have an HK-93, it was an excellent gun, till it came time to pay for ammo.

I donít know that I buy into the end of society theme that movies love to push. I think a scoped bolt action would serve a person better then what people call an assault rifle.

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#131666 - 04/30/08 09:12 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: Taurus]
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I just had another idea. I forgot all about this review.

http://www.equipped.org/Kel-Tec_SU-16_Review.htm

The Kel-Tec SU-16. Seems like it fits what you are looking for pretty well. They also have a folding stock version now.

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#131667 - 04/30/08 09:43 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: Paul810]
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Yes, finally there is the Kel-Tec SU-16. I got the SU-16CA version which is a combination of the SU-16C and the SU-16A and happens to be legal in CA wink Nice little rifle, accurate enough and takes standard M-16/AR-15 magazines.

SU-16A

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#131677 - 04/30/08 11:52 PM Re: Rifle Choices [Re: LeeG]
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In my opinion your requirements lean towards something built on a Kalashnikov/AK action. If there is a more reliable weapon out there I haven't heard of it. Plus they are available in both .223 and .308, are pretty light, and maintenance is a snap. It takes less than a minute to have it completely apart without tools.

You can get cheap AK's for around $400 everywhere. Continuing up the ladder Arsenal, Inc. and Krebs both make top end AK clones for around 1k. With your budget I would personally look real close at a Finnish Valmet M62, M71, or M76. They are Kalashnikov based rifles and take the legendary AK toughness to the extreme. In my opinion they are in a league of their own. Greatly improved sights, better barrels, fine craftsmanship, ect. Gunbroker.com has them all the time for 1k - 2k in .223 with the .308 ones going for a bit more.

I do see the advantages of using a bolt action for bugging out though. Being 500 yards away hiding out with that .300 is in most cases going to be a better choice then trading lots of lead with one or more people closer in. I am not to talk you out of getting a magazine fed military rifle though! There are situations where nothing else would do. Besides, they are flat out fun to shoot!


Edited by Nordman (05/01/08 02:04 AM)

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