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#131690 - 05/01/08 12:52 AM Re: What Gun? [Re: SwampDonkey]
Stu Offline
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I love the .22/20ga camper special. Get a butt stock elastic 5 or 6 shell carrier with a flap. Sew a bunch of .22 loops on the inside of the flap for extra ammo. You can carry 1 or 2 12 ga "survival kits" and fill the remainder of the carrier with 20 ga shells, plus 10 & 2 in the butt.
I'm thinking of having my .22/.410 Savage 24 cut down to 18" barrels. A deluxe M6. A rifle caliber elastic shell carrier fits .410 shells very nicely! smile
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#131712 - 05/01/08 02:32 AM Re: What Gun? [Re: Paul810]
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This business of 'finding ammo' is a very dangerous falsehood. We are not Wolverines bursting into the sporting goods store 5 minutes ahead of Spetsnaz paratroopers o.k.? You buy your prefered piece. You buy ammunition for it- now. A former acquaintance went hunting with a .30-06. He forgot his ammunition and dropped by a local sporting goods store. They were sold out of .30-06 ammo. It seems a bunch of locals used .30-06 too.

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#131714 - 05/01/08 02:41 AM Re: What Gun? [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
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Originally Posted By: Chris Kavanaugh
We are not Wolverines bursting into the sporting goods store 5 minutes ahead of Spetsnaz paratroopers o.k.?
I liked that movie!

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#131717 - 05/01/08 02:52 AM Re: What Gun? [Re: haertig]
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The 303 British round doesn’t make as much sense in the USA as the 3006 does. You can walk into about any store that sells ammo and find 3006, not the case with the 303. And the 3006 pushes the same bullet 300 to 400 feet faster.
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#131720 - 05/01/08 03:12 AM Re: What Gun? [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
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"...It seems a bunch of locals used .30-06 too..."

What? Others like the '06? I am shocked!

Last year we "worked" at a place in Wyoming, it had a sporting goods section. Only ammo hard to keep on hand was .30-06 and .300 Winchester Mag...
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#131749 - 05/01/08 01:33 PM Re: What Gun? [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
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Originally Posted By: Chris Kavanaugh
This business of 'finding ammo' is a very dangerous falsehood. We are not Wolverines bursting into the sporting goods store 5 minutes ahead of Spetsnaz paratroopers o.k.? You buy your prefered piece. You buy ammunition for it- now. A former acquaintance went hunting with a .30-06. He forgot his ammunition and dropped by a local sporting goods store. They were sold out of .30-06 ammo. It seems a bunch of locals used .30-06 too.


I agree with you for the most part but I sure don't see a lot of modern bullet designs loaded for things like .303. I certainly didn't picture the Red Dawn scenario.

The diversity (and availability) of modern ammunition for cartridges like the 7.62x51 is, IMO, not something you should completely overlook.

If a person chooses to buy a couple of thousand rounds and sit on them for 30 years then it wouldn't be a factor. It also wouldn't be a big factor if you plan to shoot ball ammo exclusively.

For folks like me that keep a fair number of rounds on hand but shoot them and rotate them through on a regular basis it is a factor. For anyone interested in shooting modern bullets it would be a larger factor too.

As always YMMV. smile
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#131753 - 05/01/08 03:07 PM Re: [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/14/01
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Loc: KC, MO
Originally Posted By: BigDaddyTX
What kind of air rifle do you have?


I have a Gamo Master Hunter in .22. It takes birds and small game with ease.

Originally Posted By: BigDaddyTX
I really want one of the Savage .22/.410 combos, but they don't make them any more and they're stupid expensive.


I actually inherited one of these old Savages. It needed a new stock, and had a broken firing pin on the .22, but since it's been fixed, it is fun as all get out to shoot, and effective as well.

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#131755 - 05/01/08 03:33 PM Re: What Gun? [Re: 7point82]
Paul810 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/03
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Loc: NJ, USA
I'm kind of the same way, I tend to prefer firearms in calibers that are easy to find locally and farely common. Such as .22LR, .223, .30-30, .308 Win, .30-06 Springfield, and .300 Win Mag. Even walmarts around here seem to be well stocked with all those calibers and they can take care of just about anything in the states. Though, I would probably want something like .383 Win Mag or maybe .375 H&H if I was up in Alaska, those brown bears are huge. grin


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#131757 - 05/01/08 04:47 PM Re: What Gun? [Re: MartinFocazio]
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I agree, the M6 Scout, Although sometimes found with a .22 Hornet over the .410.

good news is you can take it apart and put it in a pack.

If you like that, try a J.P. Sauer and son drilling, more innocuous than the military looking M6. Of course, priced a lot higher. normally 12x12 with a 7x57 tube underneath. sometimes a
16x16 x something as well.

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#131807 - 05/01/08 11:05 PM Re: What Gun? [Re: GreyGhost]
Stu Offline
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Originally Posted By: GreyGhost
I agree, the M6 Scout, Although sometimes found with a .22 Hornet over the .410.

I've one in .22lr and a stainless one in .22 Hornet. Better be sitting down when you buy .22 hornet ammo. I carry it as my "pack" gun. I'm not intending to fire 1000's of rounds through it, but it had reasonable range and far better hitting power than a .22lr. Not too bad on small game, doesn't tear them up too bad.
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