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#130208 - 04/15/08 02:08 PM Re: Problems wih bugging out under Martial Law [Re: OldBaldGuy]
horizonseeker Offline
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Registered: 07/12/05
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yes, easy to get in with the inward facing barb, but what about when you try to get out while hauling your ill-begotten loot?

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#130227 - 04/15/08 06:34 PM Re: Problems wih bugging out under Martial Law [Re: ]
Russ Offline
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Registered: 06/02/06
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Is this standard barbed wire or concertina wire? -- big difference.
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#130258 - 04/16/08 02:49 AM Re: Problems wih bugging out under Martial Law [Re: Russ]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
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Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
"...big difference..."


Oh yeah!!! Or barbed verses razorwire...
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#130262 - 04/16/08 05:42 AM Re: Problems wih bugging out under Martial Law [Re: OldBaldGuy]
Smackdaddyj Offline
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Registered: 04/07/08
Posts: 13
As far as I am concerned, there are really two very different situations to consider when thinking about bailing out, and they revolve around where you currntly live. If you are in the "boonies," then staying put and being in familiar terrirory could be a great idea, and would most likely be my first option in that situation. However, if you are in a city, then you are facing an entirely different situation. In the country, if things go bad, most people have some capability to sustain themselves, and the smaller communities generally band together to provide the things specific to one family or another. But in the city, most people have no capability to porduce. They are only consumers, and when consumers have nothing to consume, they become predators (i.e.: another type of consumer). Also the people that are prepared are totally reliant on their stores, and have very little capability to begin producing, which sustains you over the long haul in something like a serious depression.

One of the things I have looked at over the last several years is buying (no debt) property within easy driving of a city to be able to get what I need, but far enough out that I can have land and be self suficient.

Smackdaddyj

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#130263 - 04/16/08 07:07 AM Re: Problems wih bugging out under Martial Law [Re: Smackdaddyj]
LED Offline
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Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1474
Originally Posted By: Smackdaddyj
One of the things I have looked at over the last several years is buying (no debt) property within easy driving of a city to be able to get what I need, but far enough out that I can have land and be self suficient.
Smackdaddyj


If things were to get seriously bad you'd probably want sustainable land NOT withing easy driving distance of a large city. My guess would be far away from major population centers. Unless you feel like having lots of house guests. Then again, any property is better than no property.

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#130396 - 04/17/08 02:02 PM Re: Problems wih bugging out under Martial Law [Re: ]
Smackdaddyj Offline
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Registered: 04/07/08
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One other thought for me is that I will be in AK, the population is smaller there already, and most people are going to head South in an emergency, I would prefer to go North. Plus the fact that there are really only 3 places in AK that can really be considered cities, and the largest of those would be considered small in the lower 48, is a good thing for me. I am focussing on making my home electricity independant. Not that I want to build a home with no electricity, but I want one that can continue to function without it if necessary. That is a real concern in AK, even without an "emergency." I plan to look at property in the 1 hour out range. It makes getting into town for business doable, but also puts you far enough out that you will not really be messed with on a regular basis.

Just my thoughts.

Smackdaddyj

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