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#128548 - 03/27/08 05:18 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: MoBOB]
dougwalkabout Offline
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Have you looked at the Victorinox SwissTool Spirit? It doesn't quite meet your specs, but it's a lot thinner than the Leathermans and Gerbers, so it's not as noticeable on the belt, and it has real pliers and real tools that lock. I would probably go with the two-blade model; the scissors are only average.

EDIT: here's a link. http://www.victorinox.com/index.cfm?page=193&lang=E


Edited by dougwalkabout (03/27/08 05:22 PM)

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#128551 - 03/27/08 05:50 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: JIM]
bsmith Offline
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Originally Posted By: JIM
Anyway, I carry a Squirt P4 on my keychain for EDC. Does everything I want it to do, and therefore prevents me from having to show my Wave (wich is in my bag) in public.

ditto.

my squirt p4, on my keychain, works for me on a regular basis.

my wave is on my pack, in my car, nearby, if needed.

just as my real tools are in the garage, in a tool box.



Edited by bsmith (03/27/08 05:51 PM)
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#128552 - 03/27/08 05:54 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: JIM]
MoBOB Offline
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Juice, Squirt...my confusion. Sorry. Squirt P4 was the intended object.
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#128553 - 03/27/08 06:07 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: MoBOB]
MoBOB Offline
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The Spirit looks rather nice. It is very close to the Crunch. However, it looks to have a little more functionality. I'll go look at one. Thanks.
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#128572 - 03/27/08 10:19 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: dougwalkabout]
Kris Offline
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Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
Have you looked at the Victorinox SwissTool Spirit? It doesn't quite meet your specs, but it's a lot thinner than the Leathermans and Gerbers, so it's not as noticeable on the belt, and it has real pliers and real tools that lock. I would probably go with the two-blade model; the scissors are only average.

EDIT: here's a link. http://www.victorinox.com/index.cfm?page=193&lang=E


I second the spirit s... lives in my edc bag and use it daily. Always with me.
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#128708 - 03/29/08 05:06 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: bsmith]
Stu Offline
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I carry a Squirt P4 and a Squirt S4 on my keychain, with Swiss Tool Spirit in my kit. Handles everything I want them to do.
My kit also has a small pair of ignition pliers for bigger jobs
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#128717 - 03/29/08 09:13 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: MoBOB]
Brangdon Offline
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I have a P4 and like it. The pliers aren't up to big jobs, but they are OK as tongs and for things like cutting and bending safety pins. I was surprised at how useful the small philips screwdriver is. It often fits where one from the bigger tools won't.

I also have several in the Juice range, and currently every-day carry a Juice Cs4. To some extent bigger is better, but I suspect the cases where the P4 is inadequate but a Juice sufficient are rare. Generally if the P4 can't manage, you need something a lot bigger rather than just a little bit bigger. Eg for opening packages, in my experience there's not much difference between the blade on the P4 and the blade on the Juice. For a real cutting job I use one of my Ritters.
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#128751 - 03/30/08 02:57 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: Brangdon]
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I am a fan of the Leatherman tools and own a few.

I bought a P4 about a year ago because I use pliers more than the scissors, I intended to attach it to my keyring.

The problem is that after carrying a full-sized Leatherman (PST, Wave and now TTi) on my belt for about 14 years I just cannot bring myself to stop, the P4 is still unused in my knife drawer. I guess I just do not have faith in it's small size.

Maybe I will use it on an EDC lanyard I have been thinking about making (whistle, spark-rod, multi-tool, mirror, para-cord) or in a readily accessable PSK.

How tough/useful is the P4?

Thanks,

Mike

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#128759 - 03/30/08 06:11 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: MoBOB]
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I use a Leatherman TTi for serious stuff (work) and a Juice XE6 for E.D.C. UK carry laws being what they are. I have looked at a lot of mini tools and the XE6 is by far away the best of the bunch.
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#128853 - 03/31/08 05:53 PM Re: Small Multitool Opinions [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
MoBOB Offline
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Thanks for all the feedback everyone.

I have one simple question: Why in the Sam Hill do these companies waste space with a corkscrew? It is totally useless to me. I can't think laterally on this one. confused
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