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#126805 - 03/09/08 01:01 AM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: Art_in_FL]
dweste Offline
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Target vehicle is a small SUV.

Art, I agree on," helps if the vehicle is a bit of a beater. Keep the operating parts in good condition but let the outside and interior go a bit. Let mud and dust and dings ride."

Rear and side windows are tinted and my old navy blanket turns everything under it "invisible" from the outside. Had not thought to further "cammo" is with artistic trash on top; problem is, can I live with it - sometimes clutter grates on me!

Pacsafe idea interesting: best idea so far but pricey and identifies what's inside as high value target.

Ammo boxes too small and military (catches atttention), but repainted for some smaller stuff??? A bit harder to secure several of these than one larger container.

Have used Rubermaid and similar boxes, but offer no real security and hard to lock in place (I use a small cargo net kind of thing).

Keep thinking guys!

Thanks.



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#126806 - 03/09/08 01:07 AM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: dweste]
Nishnabotna Offline
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Have you thought about the smaller truck boxes? If you're willing to bolt them to the floor, those are pretty secure. You can get actual treadplate boxes from the truck store, or Walmart has decent enough plastic ones that you can padlock.

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#126807 - 03/09/08 01:10 AM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: dweste]
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Back when our toad was a Chevy Tracker, we put two Action Packer boxes behind the rear seat, one with vehicle related stuff, the other with a single burner stove, food, utensils, etc. I just threw a shelter half over them to "conceal" them. The shelter half could of course be used for all kinds of stuff. Now that we are tooling around in a P/U, in addition to a crossbed tool box, I just secure those Action Packers to a welded in tiedown with a chain and padlock. A second padlock secures the other latch. Won't stop a determined thief of course, but will prevent a grab and run...
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#126827 - 03/09/08 03:31 AM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: dweste]
bsmith Offline
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Originally Posted By: dweste
Pacsafe idea interesting: best idea so far but pricey and identifies what's inside as high value target.


ok, so use the pacsafe and then camo with blanket, trash or other suggestions according to taste. grin

remember - the best place to hide something is in plain sight.







Edited by bsmith (03/09/08 03:33 AM)
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#126857 - 03/09/08 05:18 PM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: bsmith]
dweste Offline
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Loc: Central California
I like these:

http://www.truckaccessories4less.net/storage-drawers.html

and the Rubbermaid Action Packers (8, 24, and 48 gallon) might work. Off to WalMart, California Tuck Store, etc. to try to get a real world gander at such things.

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#126875 - 03/10/08 12:39 AM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: dweste]
Blitz Offline
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Registered: 08/23/07
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Loc: MA
While reviewing an old thread this was mentioned;

Action Packer

I have no experience with it myself, but I'm going to check it out.

Blitz


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#126879 - 03/10/08 12:57 AM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: Blitz]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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That is what we used/use, altho a smaller sized version, with a handle/latch on each end. Not completely waterproof, but close enough for me...
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#126887 - 03/10/08 02:23 AM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: ]
BobS Offline
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Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 924
Loc: Toledo Ohio
Not that this is an option any more with a lot of modern cars. But I have a friend that has an International Harvester, Travel All (sp?) it’s big and has lots of room. He had a few tool boxes mounted under the hood on angle iron frames with straps to hold them down, he stored all kinds of things in them. He also cut a square hole in the floor in the back; he made it just a bit smaller then the frame and very long front to back. He made a metal box that extended down below the floor to store things. He put 2 doors on hinge’s, and then cut a carpet to fit the back area. This was a big box, lots of room! The back storage box and the ones under the hood were 100% invisible to anyone that looked at the truck. I’m sure it could be done with modern trucks (you may need to relocate some wiring) maybe do it with some cars. But mostly with larger trucks.

If you are willing to work at it you should be able to come up with something secure, and maybe even hidden. .
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#126912 - 03/10/08 02:22 PM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: ]
Brangdon Offline
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Registered: 12/12/04
Posts: 1201
Loc: Nottingham, UK
Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
...Just cover it up with a blanket or towel and no one will see it. It's what I do when I keep it in my backseat as opposed to my trunk when traveling.
In the UK, if you leave a blanket or towel on the back seat of a car, people will break in to find out what's underneath it.

Or so the police say. I've not experienced that personally. The only car break-in I've had they were apparently aiming for the glove box and radio. Nowadays I try to keep a clean, uncluttered cabin anyway.

I keep my gear in the boot, which is secure and out of sight. It's a couple of big boxes which are anchored to the back seat with chord. I don't want that stuff loose because it would turn into missiles if there was an accident at speed.
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#126929 - 03/10/08 05:57 PM Re: Secure car kit? [Re: Brangdon]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2184
Loc: Deep south... Carolina
Maybe OBG can enlighten us with some of the more successful habits of highly-addicted people.

Drug runners have to have some great tricks, right....?

One thing we once did at an ambulance company: converted a Chevy Astro into a multi-casualty-incident responce vehicle. Among the additions was 4 backboards, stacked 2 high, on the floor. Someone had made a wood frame to enclose them, but still flat so that it was the "new" floor. Perhaps something like that? You buy a few 2" or 4" beams, and a piece of 1/2" plywood. Elevate the plywood off the floor, throw the carpets on top of it, and suddenly the "floor" is back to normal. But you've got a ton of space beneath it, where the vehicle's true floor is.

http://www.ronshirl.net/images/Patrol/False%20Floor.gif

Kind of shows what I'm talking about. Yours wouldn't be quite so official, but shows the idea. with the trunk hatch closed, you wouldn't be able to see it was raised.

The other option is something in plain sight, that's not worth the consequences:
http://www.botachtactical.com/unmikpoldufb.html


Edited by MDinana (03/10/08 06:02 PM)

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