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#117583 - 12/26/07 05:22 PM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
91gdub Offline
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Registered: 11/12/06
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Loc: South Jersey (the 51st state)
Yeah kinda sucks.
40 miles east = Atlantic Ocean
20 miles west = 5 different bridges into Philadelphia PA
30 miles south = 1 bridge into DE
North, fugetaboutit North Jersey/New York

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#117585 - 12/26/07 05:31 PM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: 91gdub]
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
Well, you could skirt the Delaware upriver a ways and that might afford you some degree of separation from the urban sprawl, but you are in a tough spot to be sure. I wouldn't wanna cross the river into PA much anyways. I hear the mayor has all but declared martial law in Philly?
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#117594 - 12/26/07 06:09 PM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: 91gdub]
CityBoyGoneCountry Offline
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Registered: 11/04/07
Posts: 369
Originally Posted By: 91gdub
Yeah kinda sucks.
40 miles east = Atlantic Ocean
20 miles west = 5 different bridges into Philadelphia PA
30 miles south = 1 bridge into DE
North, fugetaboutit North Jersey/New York


Seriously, I'd get an inflatable raft. Worst case scenario - all bridges are destroyed or otherwise obstructed. Get to the river, inflate raft, cross river, leave raft, survive.

Or stay and die. Either way, it's up to you.

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#117595 - 12/26/07 06:19 PM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
Dan_McI Offline
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Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 844
Loc: NYC
Instead of heading west, across the Delaware River, you could head east or north (and then either east or west). If you head north, once you leave NJ, you might be able to cross the Delaware wihout a bridge or a boat.

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#117610 - 12/26/07 08:37 PM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: Dan_McI]
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
Hmm, I never really thought of an inflatable raft as a BOB item. In any case, I wouldn't want to try and cross the Delaware in a raft that would fit in a BOB anyways. Might as well just BOB one of the $1.99 air mattresses as you'd get just as wet and probably fare better.

If you can follow the river upstream, you will at least know fairly well where you are at any given time.
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#117653 - 12/27/07 04:33 AM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: Ors]
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
BOB = however long it takes to get there + safety margin

Before I relocated back to what would have been my BOL under normal circumstances, BOB had 5 days of food, the ditch kit one day. That assumes breakfast, some grazing during the day, and a meal at night before bed, but not any supplementation. There is a tote without about a month of food in it that would have gone in the car, but if I had to walk I wouldn't have shlepped it with me.

As for water, I've got five quarts in my gear, I'd like to add another three. And get two of them into my vest rather than just one.
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#117656 - 12/27/07 05:06 AM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: ironraven]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
When I first worried about TEOTWAWKI, ancient Anasazi God of mayhem and brother to Kokopelli and WTSHTF; I had a BOB, PSK, FAK for any SNAFU of FUBAR short only $100 of colourised Ronald Reagan .925 Silver commemerative coins and 5 bricks of .22 lr for barter. Now I have developed the STUFFIT system, or 'supplies to fix food if troubled.' I have yet to use those tiny tobbasco sauce bottles on my fruitcakes or heat a MRE over a fire that has been stabbed in the center by my survival spear. I'd wind up making some mini lantern out of the thing to go with the coke can stove and MRE packaging duct taped emergency quilt I made after talkng with an Amish. But I could given all the backup kit I have to replace kit I in all likelyhood won't use anyway.We have learned from Katrina that 72 hours may indeed not be enough.This is when my KISS acronym 'Keep individual survival simple' comes into play. You AREN'T GOING to have everything you want, so have enough of what you NEED. In spite of yesterday's tragic event in San Francisco, members in that earthquake prone city really don't need Holland and Holland side by side stopping rifles. More than 72 hours basic food would imply leaving the liferaft behind.

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#117663 - 12/27/07 12:12 PM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
Well said Chris, well said.
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#117667 - 12/27/07 02:00 PM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
"...Kokopelli..."

Ya gotta watch out for that guy, or you will have another mouth to lug food for...
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#117678 - 12/27/07 05:15 PM Re: How long's your BOB good for? [Re: benjammin]
CityBoyGoneCountry Offline
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Registered: 11/04/07
Posts: 369
Originally Posted By: benjammin
Hmm, I never really thought of an inflatable raft as a BOB item.


It's not a BOB item. It's a trunk of the car, get the hell out of New Jersey item.

Emergency planning has to be tailored to fit the individual's specific circumstances. If my circumstance was being boxed in by water, you better believe I would own a raft. But as it happens, I am not boxed in by water, so in my individual circumstance a raft is not needed.

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