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#117151 - 12/22/07 04:08 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: MoBOB]
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
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Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Anybody have experience with these products?

http://www.philoxia.com/survival.htm

And Monty Alford's home made Yu-Can survival stove made with nested cans and tea candles is good for melting snow and you can use your survival tubing as a straw to drink directly from it.

Frankie

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#117152 - 12/22/07 04:09 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Frankie]
Russ Offline
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I suppose that depends on the weather, the vehicle and how comfortable the seats are wink I'd like to see how well a mummy bag in a car does compared to a mummy bag in a tent.

Considering that the seat and carpeting are keeping me up off the ground and dry, and that I expend zero energy in building a shelter, I'll continue to plan on using the truck cab as an expedient shelter.
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#117154 - 12/22/07 04:18 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: JIM]
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
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Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Quote:
And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.


Where did you read this?


In Winter Wise by Monty Alford.

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#117155 - 12/22/07 04:22 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: Frankie]
JIM Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Quote:
And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.


Where did you read this?


In Winter Wise by Monty Alford.


Thanks, it seems like a nice book.
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#117157 - 12/22/07 04:32 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: JIM]
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Quote:
And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.


Where did you read this?


In Winter Wise by Monty Alford.


Thanks, it seems like a nice book.


This part of the thread is starting to look like Russian Matryoshka dolls with all its nested quotes.

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#117160 - 12/22/07 04:38 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: Frankie]
JIM Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: JIM
[quote=Frankie]
Quote:
And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.


Where did you read this?


In Winter Wise by Monty Alford.


Thanks, it seems like a nice book.


This part of the thread is starting to look like Russian Matryoshka dolls with all its nested quotes. [/quote]

You think? grin
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#117161 - 12/22/07 04:43 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: JIM]
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
[quote=JIM][quote=Frankie]
Quote:
And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.


Where did you read this?


In Winter Wise by Monty Alford.


Thanks, it seems like a nice book.


This part of the thread is starting to look like Russian Matryoshka dolls with all its nested quotes. [/quote]

You think? grin [/quote]

yep grin

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#117162 - 12/22/07 04:46 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: Frankie]
JIM Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: JIM
[quote=Frankie][quote=JIM][quote=Frankie]
Quote:
And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.


Where did you read this?


In Winter Wise by Monty Alford.


Thanks, it seems like a nice book.


This part of the thread is starting to look like Russian Matryoshka dolls with all its nested quotes. [/quote]

You think? grin [/quote]

yep grin [/quote]

Really? (alright, I'll stop)
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''It's time for Plan B...'' ''We have a Plan B?'' ''No, but it's time for one.'' -Stargate SG-1

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#117200 - 12/23/07 12:16 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: JIM]
hamilton Offline
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Registered: 04/10/07
Posts: 81
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
Originally Posted By: JIM
Originally Posted By: Frankie
[quote=JIM][quote=Frankie][quote=JIM][quote=Frankie]
Quote:
And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.


Where did you read this?


In Winter Wise by Monty Alford.


Thanks, it seems like a nice book.


This part of the thread is starting to look like Russian Matryoshka dolls with all its nested quotes. [/quote]

You think? grin [/quote]

yep grin [/quote]

Really? (alright, I'll stop) [/quote]

Sorry I couldn't help it.

I think a car or truck would make for an alright shelter as long as you have a thick wool blanket and heavy sleeping bag. Plus you probably have your heavy winter coat. Plenty of insulation. All I would really want is for the car to stop the wind.

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#117216 - 12/23/07 01:19 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: handyman]
picard120 Offline
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Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 763
T-shirt should be avoid as emergency item in winter kit. synthetic polyester long johns, polartec, should be included in the kit.

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