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#116995 - 12/21/07 09:40 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Loganenator]
Ors Offline
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As I've said before, there's a difference between SURVIVING and COMFORT.

Paper plates are not needed for survival...they do provide a touch of civilization which can be a moral booster.

I'm reminded of an episode of MASH where the camp had to bug out...everyone was told to take only the essentials (they were abandoning the camp, not taking it with them)...Charles had his phonograph and a huge stack of records...he swore that he was taking only the barest of essentials. Come to think of it, why weren't they better prepared for a bug out in general??

I think I'm going to write an article...practical kit lists...no lace hankies allowed!

A lot of people are going to need simple to use items and even simpler instructions on how to use them...I'll put that on my list of projects.

Thinking about the deodorant (and back to the civilization thought) reminds me of that Right Guard commercial a few years back..."because you don't want to give off a malodorous air...Right Guard, because anything less would be uncivilized" smile
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#117007 - 12/21/07 11:04 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Loganenator]
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flashlight (wind-up)

Great! Now the masses are going to be “prepared” by getting those cheap pieces of crap that have button cell batteries hidden in them because the “dynamo” is nothing but a noisemaker clicky-toy. They should have either been less specific by saying “Flashlight” or more specific by saying “Flashlight (Batteryless, e.g. Freeplay or NightStar)”.
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#117055 - 12/22/07 02:05 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: Loganenator]
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
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Loc: Vermont
Lot of head scratcher stuff- missing items (gloves, tow straps, maybe I missed the Slime/Fixaflat), badly defined items (FAK, water), and why bother (tent?!?, deodorant?)
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#117058 - 12/22/07 02:08 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: ironraven]
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And a P-38 with nothing to open...
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#117060 - 12/22/07 02:13 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: OldBaldGuy]
Crowe Offline
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Registered: 12/03/07
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Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
And a P-38 with nothing to open...


Maybe you'll run along a raccoon with a can of pork and beans.

Maybe you'll use it to open a sunroof in your car...

Maybe you'll be stranded on an abandoned army base and trip over a 60 year old C-Rat can....

Maybe it's an emergency suicide tool when you run out of shampoo...

Who knows?

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#117064 - 12/22/07 02:18 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Crowe]
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True. I still carry my first one, got it in 'bout '68. I don't use it much anymore, but still carry it...
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#117076 - 12/22/07 02:29 AM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Crowe]
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Or maybe just a raccoon?
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#117148 - 12/22/07 03:51 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car l [Re: Ors]
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Registered: 09/19/03
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In a shelter-in-place longer term situation paper plates are nice because you save water from not having to wash the dishes though.

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#117149 - 12/22/07 03:56 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: handyman]
Frankie Offline
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And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.

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#117150 - 12/22/07 04:06 PM Re: Outdoorlife article: Survival Equipment, Car list [Re: Frankie]
JIM Offline
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Registered: 03/18/06
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Originally Posted By: Frankie
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And why a tent if you're in your vehicle . Are you going to get out of your vehicle and pitch a tent during a blizzard


I've read that any non-running vehicle is a heat sink and in cold weather it's better to build a shelter outside of the car to prevent hypothermia, like a snow trench or even a tent when there's not enough snow.


Where did you read this?
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