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#115647 - 12/12/07 04:58 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: redflare]
JCWohlschlag Offline
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Originally Posted By: redflare
Many parts of the US prohibit carrying firearms in the wilderness. This is particularly true of National Parks.

On the off-chance of being attacked by a bear or some other large creature while camping/backpacking there, do you think its possible to incapacitate them with a Taser?

Anyone's thoughts on this?

The range of a civilian Taser is limited to 15 feet. At that range you might as well just punch the bear… in fact, you may end up doing just that if the Taser doesn’t suppress the bear’s central nervous system real quick. Bear pepper spray just seems like it is a better option.
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#115648 - 12/12/07 05:11 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: JCWohlschlag]
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Redflare:

Carry a ski pole without the basket attached as a walking stick, the sharp steel point on the end is a good weapon no matter how may feet are on the thing that is bothering you. smile
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#115649 - 12/12/07 05:12 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: redflare]
Joseph13 Offline
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Hello to all,

I am in agreement that most animals fur in the wild, will act as an insulator against the barbs of a "taser gun", or the prongs of a hand held (contact) taser. However I have heard some of the hand held units emit quite an obnoxious sound that may drive animals away. Although as others have mentioned in this thread I do not want to be the one to find out.

From the few people I have met that have used bear repellant, on animals they claim to have had great sucess.

Thank you for posting a very interesting scenario for wilderness survival.

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#115651 - 12/12/07 05:16 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: Joseph13]
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Originally Posted By: Joseph13
Hello to all,

I am in agreement that most animals fur in the wild, will act as an insulator against the barbs of a "taser gun", or the prongs of a hand held (contact) taser. However I have heard some of the hand held units emit quite an obnoxious sound that may drive animals away. Although as others have mentioned in this thread I do not want to be the one to find out.

From the few people I have met that have used bear repellant, on animals they claim to have had great sucess.

Thank you for posting a very interesting scenario for wilderness survival.


I can't remember where I read it but there is a 0% mortality rate when pepper spray is used properly against bears.

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#115652 - 12/12/07 05:28 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: ponder]
clearwater Offline
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Is that shotgun a restricted item?

A friend of mine carried tasers in the Sudan as an antidote
to cobra bite.

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#115654 - 12/12/07 05:31 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: Eugene]
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#115656 - 12/12/07 05:42 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: ]
Andy Offline
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Originally Posted By: Joseph13


I can't remember where I read it but there is a 0% mortality rate when pepper spray is used properly against bears.


When working on a trail crew for the USFS last year in AK my DD2 was often the point person for bear protection. The crew personnel carried the industrial sized pepper spray, she also carried a 12 GA. Never saw a bear.

This summer she and a buddy were fishing and ran across several black bears. Both species went to great lengths to avoid one another. They did have the pepper spray in case (my DD, not the bears...).
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#115693 - 12/12/07 10:26 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: clearwater]
ponder Offline
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Originally Posted By: clearwater
Is that shotgun a restricted item?


Yes. An AOW (Any Other Weapon) has a one time $5 tax (Permit) on it. The shotgun I carry is a 10" Rem 870 12 3" mag. It holds 4 - 3" shells. I carry 000 BUCK - SLUG - 000 BUCK - SLUG.
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#115698 - 12/12/07 11:11 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: clearwater]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Wrangel-St. Elias NP in Alaska not only allows firearms, info at one of their visiter centers actually recommends it (don't have a link for that, but saw it myself last year)...
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#115702 - 12/12/07 11:29 PM Re: Tasers for wilderness survival [Re: ponder]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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That is interesing. A 10" 870 really sounds like a Class II weapon to me, not an AOW. Where did you get your "...one time $5 tax (Permit)..."?

Also, keep in mind that, even with a Fed "permit," individual states (such as CA), can prohibit your possession of lots of weapons (link) "...These weapons may also be further regulated by states or
localities, and while these weapons can be legally owned under
federal law, some states and localities further regulate ownership
or prohibit it (see below)..."
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