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#106296 - 09/19/07 05:38 PM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: OldBaldGuy]
DougM Offline
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1) a parka is not a poncho.
2) this is what rain chaps were invented for.
3) wear waterproof insulation ( Polartech, etc.underneath).

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#106379 - 09/20/07 02:32 AM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: DougM]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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"...a parka is not a poncho..."

I meant poncho. Senior moment, for which I apologize...
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#106386 - 09/20/07 02:49 AM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: Frankie]
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I have experienced that the mil spec ponchos will leak when pressure is applied to them (i.e. at contact points such as the elbows). I carried a GI poncho, poncho liner and a GI casualty blanket while on missions requiring less personal gear than mission essential gear. I used the casualty blanket as a drop cloth, the liner as a blanket and the poncho as a shelter. The only failing part was the poncho. I have since added another casualty blanket as the shelter as well as a cheap painter's tarp. As I always learned "Pack Light Freeze at Night"
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#106425 - 09/20/07 01:52 PM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: Frankie]
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Who is Michael Blomgren?
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#106430 - 09/20/07 02:35 PM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: inkslngr]
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Originally Posted By: inkslngr
Who is Michael Blomgren?

http://www.michelblomgren.com/ (Which, of course, has a link to http://bushcraft.se/.)
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#106437 - 09/20/07 03:55 PM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Registered: 01/25/06
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Loc: Nevada
This is a waste of Goretex as the principle of Goretex is to build up a water pressure with in the garment, such that the water molecules will escape through the pores in the Goretex membrane. With a poncho I would doubt that this would occure.
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#106455 - 09/20/07 06:12 PM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: atoz]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
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Hi Atoz,

The poncho is used for more than just standing around in keeping the rain off. The poncho is also used as ground sheet, a rain shelter, a sleeping bag cover, a rain water collector etc. Its a very versitile piece of kit. The British Army also issues MVP (Goretex) jackets, overtrousers (prefer the German army ones myself), hats, gloves, socks, gaiters, Bivi bags etc.

I would much prefer to use Goretex rather than any of the other synthetic impermeable alternatives despite the limitations of Goretex.

There are even full Goretex tents available for high altitude cold weather mountaineering.



Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (09/20/07 06:21 PM)

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#106458 - 09/20/07 06:27 PM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Frank2135 Offline
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Registered: 04/26/07
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Loc: Ohio, USA
Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor
The poncho is used for more than just standing around in keeping the rain off. The poncho is also used as ground sheet, a rain shelter, a sleeping bag cover, a rain water collector etc. Its a very versitile piece of kit.


I couldn't agree more. Add a liner and it's even better. Add a second poncho, small tarp or "sportsman's blanket" and you have the makings of a shelter system that can see you through a wide range of conditions.
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#106463 - 09/20/07 07:35 PM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
58 pattern poncho is not waterproof.

Trust me on this one.


Edited by Leigh_Ratcliffe (09/20/07 07:36 PM)
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#106547 - 09/21/07 03:34 PM Re: Military poncho, "gum blanket"!? [Re: Leigh_Ratcliffe]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
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Quote:
58 pattern poncho is not waterproof


Thats why the MVP poncho is a better bet as it is waterproof. That is except of course for the big hole in the middle. wink

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