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#102157 - 08/09/07 07:42 PM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: JCWohlschlag]
stevez Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 75
Loc: Colorado
So, is the use of this symbol on American military buildings, tents, aircraft, vehicles, and medical personnel in jeopardy? I wonder what they would use to replace it if a judge rules in favor of J&J. Perhaps a red snake instead. Never mind, that one is for lawyers.

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#102158 - 08/09/07 07:44 PM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
norad45 Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
Originally Posted By: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor

I hope the judge just looks up the website for both Johnson and Johnson and American Red Cross and makes his decision based on what he sees.


I would hope that a judge would consider a lot more than that. The law would be a good place to start.

Quote:
I think they have been in the privaledged rarified atmosphere of greedy corporate American for to long now to see the consequences of their decision to legal redress against the AMR.


You sound mighty familiar. Have we met here before? Maybe you were posting under another name at one time?


Edited by norad45 (08/09/07 07:57 PM)

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#102160 - 08/09/07 07:55 PM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: GarlyDog]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3077
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This entire thread reminds me of a classic Onion article....

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29130



If only if I'd have taken out that patent for c:\ in 1977 smile

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#102163 - 08/09/07 08:03 PM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
DesertFox Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
Posts: 339
Loc: New York, NY
J&J isn't saying the Red Cross can's use a red cross as it's symbol. J&J is just a little miffed that the AMERICAN Red Cross is licensing J&Js trademark to J&Js competitors.

AFAIK, the red cross on white background is officially recognized as a symol to be used on the battlefield to denote medical personell by the Geneva Conventions of (I think) 1861. This judge is going to have a ball balancing trademark and international treaty issues.

BTW, do you have a twin-brother named Bentirrian?

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#102165 - 08/09/07 08:23 PM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: DesertFox]
GarlyDog Offline
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Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 776
Loc: The People's Republic of IL
Originally Posted By: DesertFox
J&J isn't saying the Red Cross can's use a red cross as it's symbol. J&J is just a little miffed that the AMERICAN Red Cross is licensing J&Js trademark to J&Js competitors.




That's how I see it. Well said.
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#102172 - 08/09/07 09:10 PM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: DesertFox]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3077
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J&J isn't saying the Red Cross can's use a red cross as it's symbol. J&J is just a little miffed that the AMERICAN Red Cross is licensing J&Js trademark to J&Js competitors.


Looks like J&J have been doing some IP trawling. They appear to have failed on the international scene and are looking to catch some smaller fish at home.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200312/24/eng20031224_131113.shtml


Who's Bentirrian?

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#102189 - 08/09/07 10:43 PM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
GarlyDog Offline
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Registered: 04/05/07
Posts: 776
Loc: The People's Republic of IL
I think the case may have turned out different if the jurisdiction was the US.

Careful vs Carefree? Come on. It is my understanding that most Chinese don't even speak English. You can't convince me that this isn't a ripoff of one of J&J's flagship brands.

Based on this discussion, I think my idea to open a chain of McDognals restaurants in China is a go!

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#102208 - 08/10/07 12:43 AM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: GarlyDog]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
"...most Chinese don't even speak English..."

Just a little question: How many Americans do you figure speak Chinese???
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#102209 - 08/10/07 01:06 AM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: GarlyDog]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3077
Careful v Carefree. From a purely english gramatical sense, these words have almost the exact opposite meaning.

From the Oxford English dictionary,

Careful - • adjective 1 taking care to avoid mishap or harm; cautious. 2 (careful with) prudent in the use of. 3 done with or showing thought and attention.

Carefree - • adjective free from anxiety or responsibility.


I must admit I've really had a laugh at Bill Gates statement from your link,

Quote:
For years, in the interest of the overall health of the computer industry, we permitted the free and unfettered use of our proprietary numeric systems


Classic laugh laugh laugh I think even George Boole would have probably seen the funny side.





Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (08/10/07 01:14 AM)

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#102215 - 08/10/07 02:11 AM Re: Johnson & Johnson sues the American Red Cross [Re: GarlyDog]
xbanker Offline
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 484
Loc: Anthem, AZ USA
Originally Posted By: GarlyDog
It is my understanding that most Chinese don't even speak English.

Wouldn't bet on it. Among students and business-people, learning English is a big deal. And here's an eye-opener:

"In 20 years time, the number of English speakers in China is likely to exceed the number of speakers of English as a first language in all the rest of the world." — Gordon Brown, UK Finance Minister, 2005, during speech in Beijing.
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