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#101300 - 08/01/07 09:55 PM Re: Fallout Shelter: Forty-Two Buried School Buses [Re: LED]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2846
Loc: La-USA
That's why I have set up a command structure, military style, for my family/friends shelter plans. Everybody has a job to be done (watches to stand), duties to perform, and time has been programmed for nightly morale events.
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#101309 - 08/02/07 12:05 AM Re: Fallout Shelter: Forty-Two Buried School Buses [Re: xbanker]
NeighborBill Offline
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Registered: 03/02/03
Posts: 385
Loc: Oklahoma City
Bruce, on defense:

"One man and his family
will not be able to stand against
these marauders and pirates.
Not even will a small collective be able to do so.
Roaming marauders will soon learn
the techniques of taking out any resistance
and the advantage always lies
with the attacker.
Castles and fortresses no matter how mighty
always eventually fall.

It will also be impossible
to keep a low profile -
as these hordes sweep across the land -
like locusts or army ants
devouring everything in their path.

Yes,
security becomes the first problem -
and yes,
I have given it much thought.

Ark Two is built as a bunker.
It is in a fenced compound
with watchtowers
at the end of a dead-end road
with a 150 ft cliff on one side.

Adjoining it is a small village -
in a rural area
with limited access -
and occupied by dozens of family members
and others associated with the facility.

However,
our strength is not that.
Our strength is in that
Ark Two is not defensive or offensive -
but rather that it is responsive
to the needs of the survivors.

We are a resource
for the survivors.

We have KI for 3,000 people.
Radiation detection kits
to hand out to the same number.

Post radiation detection labs
for every Province.
Recovery information, plans,
and expertise.

It will be a matter of convincing those
who attack us -
that we are a resource
that they don't want to destroy.

If we can't convince (co-opt)
or conquer them -
then we will have no choice but to surrender
unless they are marauders who take no prisoners -
in which case the only choice is
to fight to the death."
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#101327 - 08/02/07 03:10 AM Re: Fallout Shelter: Forty-Two Buried School Buses [Re: LED]
xbanker Offline
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 484
Loc: Anthem, AZ USA
Originally Posted By: LED
...for personal preference, I don't think I could be holed up with more than say 10 people, and they'd probably have to be people I know well...


As much as I admire the work and planning that's gone into this project -- and it will probably serve them well if ever called upon -- I share LED's smaller-group philosophy. In saying that, realize I'm precluded from banging on the door, yelling "Let me in." wink

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#101442 - 08/03/07 11:19 AM Re: Fallout Shelter: Forty-Two Buried School Buses [Re: xbanker]
NIM Offline
Member

Registered: 02/12/03
Posts: 128
I had the opportunity to visit the project a few years ago and receive a very rare tour. At that time the Canadian Gvt. had not allowed them into the ark for a very long time.

At that time the facility was very damp/wet as the ventilation system was not active. The cots were covered in mold and if you had allergies to mould or asthma the place would likely be a death trap. I was very impressed with the structure and the layout.

I wish the Canadian Gvt. would leave them alone. They have been fighting the Gvt. in courts for decades.

They were raided on Y2K but the silly Gvt. found no guns or anything illegal and left smile

I'm a little over 6 feet tall and I was able to stand upright without problems.

Bruce is a great guy. ....work late ooops gotta run

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