Dash Cams

Posted by: Blast

Dash Cams - 11/03/20 06:14 PM

Over the last few years Houston has become a hotbed of insurance fraud auto "accidents". To help protect my family and I for this sort of fraud I've installed dash cams in all our vehicles. Picking a camera system was fairly easy. Understanding the rules and regulations of them has been a real trip down the rabbit hole. Things to consider:
1. What are your state's privacy laws? Do people need to agreed to being recorded before you can record them?
2. Will your court system allow dash cam video as evidence?
3. Can other video from the camera be used against you? Do you normally drive like a jerk?
4. Does having a visible camera invite smash-and-grab theft?

Sadly, dash cams open up a big can of worms. That being said, I personally still feel the benefits outweigh the potential negatives.
Thoughts?
Posted by: TeacherRO

Re: Dash Cams - 11/03/20 07:40 PM

Did you go front and back or just front facing?
Posted by: Bingley

Re: Dash Cams - 11/03/20 11:14 PM

Blast, can you share your product research with us? There is tons of dash cams out there. I'm guessing that the lower end ones are all made in the same factory. But then the higher end ones might also come out of the same factory.
Posted by: brandtb

Re: Dash Cams - 11/03/20 11:19 PM

Two of your points -

3. Can other video from the camera be used against you? Do you normally drive like a jerk?
4. Does having a visible camera invite smash-and-grab theft?

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I have a post-it note on my dash. It says "Drive Meekly." There are too many (other - besides me) jerks out there to be ticked off at their bad behavior. "Teaching him a lesson" never works.

I have a Garmin GPS/dashcam in front with a dash-mount pad instead of a suction cup window mount. It has a 'sticky' weighted pad that just sits on the top of the dash. When I park I move it from the dash to the center console to discourage people from seeing it. I also have a budget rear-mounted cam on the back window.
Posted by: Blast

Re: Dash Cams - 11/04/20 05:11 AM

Originally Posted By: TeacherRO
Did you go front and back or just front facing?


Both front and back facing.
-Blast
Posted by: Blast

Re: Dash Cams - 11/04/20 05:26 AM

Originally Posted By: Bingley
Blast, can you share your product research with us?


After ordering, trying, and returning several I settled on this make/model for our vehicles: AUKEY Dual Dash Cam*

It uses capacitors instead of batteries so supposedly this makes it better in southern cars where the internal summer temperatures can get over 120F. I hardwired each directly to an "always on" slot in the fuse box of each car so that it records even when parked. The only issue with that is it does slowly steal power from the car battery if it's left sitting for a long time. The video quality is good, it's easy to program, and it came with cables more than long enough to run the length of a Toyota 4Runner and a Honda Pilot. I've had them for several years and they are still going fine.

The others I tried either had too short of cables, glitchy rear-facing cameras, or flimsy construction.
-Blast
Posted by: Phaedrus

Re: Dash Cams - 11/04/20 06:52 AM

I'd like to try a dash cam but I've found the process of researching them to be overwhelming. I'm not really super confident in installing one if it has to be wired in.
Posted by: Tjin

Re: Dash Cams - 11/04/20 09:23 AM

Use a good endurance SD card for recording. Normal ones will fail soon when used in continuous recording.

I skipped the cable that came with it and just use a very long USB cable. Cable is hidden under the trim and shows up at my 12V socket, where it goes in one of the four USB slots. This allows me to disconnect it easily when crossing some borders.
Posted by: Blast

Re: Dash Cams - 11/04/20 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Phaedrus
I'd like to try a dash cam but I've found the process of researching them to be overwhelming. I'm not really super confident in installing one if it has to be wired in.


They don't require hardwiring in, that was just something I did on my own. They come with a 12VDC "cigarette" power plug.
-Blast
Posted by: CJK

Re: Dash Cams - 11/14/20 01:43 AM

Blast.... AFAIK... recording in public..... there isn't any expectation of privacy. As a road medic, I have had people literally cell phone video OVER MY SHOULDER on scene of a crash. Cops have said there is no law against it. I'd assume since a dash cam is in public, there'd be no problem. Even the 'audio' portion as it is IN PUBLIC. Hence no expectation...... Just my 2c.
Posted by: Herman30

Re: Dash Cams - 11/14/20 08:36 AM

In our country (Finland) it is legal to film in public places. But to publicly show those films (like on internet) thatīs more complicated and not allways legal.
Posted by: Blast

Re: Dash Cams - 11/16/20 09:55 PM

Originally Posted By: CJK
Blast.... AFAIK... recording in public..... **SNIP** Even the 'audio' portion as it is IN PUBLIC. Hence no expectation...... Just my 2c.


Several legal websites mention that in some states you need to let passengers, mechanics, and other people who may be in your vehicle know that they are being recorded (audio). My understanding was it used to be illegal in TX but that's been changed. I need to dig into this more.
-Blast
Posted by: Doug_Ritter

Re: Dash Cams - 11/17/20 01:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Blast
Originally Posted By: CJK
Blast.... AFAIK... recording in public..... **SNIP** Even the 'audio' portion as it is IN PUBLIC. Hence no expectation...... Just my 2c.


Several legal websites mention that in some states you need to let passengers, mechanics, and other people who may be in your vehicle know that they are being recorded (audio). My understanding was it used to be illegal in TX but that's been changed. I need to dig into this more.
-Blast


Put a little sign on back of the camera?
Posted by: Blast

Re: Dash Cams - 11/19/20 04:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Doug_Ritter

Put a little sign on back of the camera?


Yeah, I'm thinking something that says, "All activity in this vehicle is recorded and if entertaining enough, will be posted on the internet"
grin
-Blast
Posted by: Doug_Ritter

Re: Dash Cams - 11/19/20 11:30 PM

Originally Posted By: Blast
Originally Posted By: Doug_Ritter

Put a little sign on back of the camera?


Yeah, I'm thinking something that says, "All activity in this vehicle is recorded and if entertaining enough, will be posted on the internet"
grin
-Blast


LOL!!!!!
Posted by: MartinFocazio

Re: Dash Cams - 01/18/21 01:34 AM

Dash cams used to be illegal in Germany.
Not anymore: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germa...s-idUSKCN1IG1LO