wazoo belt alternative

I'm Baaaack! cos they aint caught me yet!
With a new name spelling because when you click on the 'forgot your password' link you don't get an email.

Good News:
This (think it's been mentioned here before) seems a great idea! The belt only, not looked at the contents, so no opinion.

https://www.wazoosurvivalgear.com/cache-belt-more-than-a-money-belt/

Bad News:
It doesn't exist and never will. They've been held up since June over the belt buckle with a built in bottle opener? Errr.... can't one buy a buckle anywhere? How useful is a bottle opener anyway. Hands up everyone on this site without a bottle opener on them already, on their multi tool, or multi blade knife.

Anyone know of an alternative?
qjs

Welcome back, Joey!

Interesting concept. I'll not be ordering but I do wonder how it feels on when it's loaded.

Good to be back in touch wwith one of our dancing gi....

errr... experienced contributors.
I've been wearing a supermarket zip compartment belt for years and don't notice it. It carries a suprising amount. But this looks like it would carry a lot more. Not sure how this 'kickstart' thing works.
qjs

Link? sounds intriguing

There's a link in my original post.
qjs

I have become completely disgusted with crowdfunding sites and their unwillingness or inability to keep out fraud and incompetence. Have a funeral for your money before giving it up to a crowdfunding platform.

You could take a look on IPSC belts. They are made of two layers velcroed together. That may offer even more flexibility for sizing the compartments. You could even create a compartment for a bottle or can opener .

I must say I am not impressed with their component assortment, especially at the proposed price. On my recent hurried departure from our home, I fortunately took a similar zippered belt, loaded with my collection of greenish slips of paper with a portrait of Thomas Jefferson, as well as my "core bag" of ten essentials items (more like fifteen or so). I had no need for fish hooks or lead weights, nor has fishing been a need in any survival situations I have faced in the past.

Max wrote:
> You could take a look on IPSC belts. They are made of two layers velcroed together.

do you have a link? I can only find leather ones.

qjs

found these. is this what you are referring to Max?

https://youtu.be/R0Prj5Yixj8

qjs

my Aerostitch money belt has a 24" zippered compartment... not exactly cheap, and probably a lot of off shore copies available at less price..

I wear a hook/loop closing under belt (Uncle Mikes brand for a competition holster outer belt) as the velcro closure did not scratch my motorcycle tank.. it is very stiff, excellent if you want a belt for inside the pants holster, but not especially comfortable if you don't need it for a specific purpose...I don't think you would like a double stiff belt combination....YMMV

LesSnyder wrote
> I wear a hook/loop closing under belt (Uncle Mikes brand for a competition holster outer belt)

So these are belts for some kind of gun competition? (I'm in Dear Olde England where we guns are banned, because obviously criminals won't then use them. They respect the law that much!)

If they are not intended to be compartment belts, do they actually hold much?
qjs

QJS... the style is primarily for continuous open pistol and allied gear carry... mine is aimed at the law enforcement market, but the given examples were for the competition shooters (USPSA is the United States Region for IPSC), I shoot 3 gun (rifle, shotgun,pistol) and use it to carry all the additional ammunition needed for all three... the velcro under belt allows you to have a belt to hold up your pants, and still remove the holster, magazine pouches etc and quickly replace it... they are very stiff to hold the holster in position... the actual ammunition carriers are modular, so I can add or remove them if I shoot just a pistol match

for a typical 3 gun match it gets pretty heavy...,retention holster and a Glock 34, 3 6round carriers for 12ga, 2 30round 5.56 magazine carriers, and 2 18round 9mm carriers... a 30 round shot shell pouch is added for long jungle run courses

regards

basically yes. They come in different shapes:
https://www.sportshooter.de/ausruestung/guertel/

Thanks folks.
These IPSC belts sound ideal. Don't have to remove them to access the contents and can add pouches in any position.
And now I know if I see someone wearing a belt, but I can't see the loops, he's got a gun!
qjs

and most likely wearing a tan beret, and calls 22nd Regiment home

"we are the Pilgrims, Master, and we will go always a little further; it may be beyond that last blue mountain barred with snow, or across that angry or glimmering sea"

And chaosmagnet has graciously overcome the problem of someone so stupid he can't remember his password and which email account he's registered with!
So I'm back with the correct spelling too.
Nice to know they respect our privacy enough to refuse passwords to someone claiming to be another contributor.
Though I explained I'm so sad I'm the opposite of most men on the net. I keep telling isabelle and blacpacjac I want them to act as dancing girls for me in public post. But have never actually posted either privately :-)

Quick Joey Small has returned from over the wall! :-)
qjs

Hurray! Great to have you back QJS.


chaosmagnet

Update

Well shows how much I know! :-)
They are shipping these belts.
At the moment to the people who pre-ordered already.

The rest of us will start getting them in August if we order now.

https://cache-belt.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders

Again I know nothing about this kickstart thing, so if someone can see this is a scam please inform us soon!

qjs

Not impressed. Over-priced, readily available components in a cheap money belt. Velcro closure?? would be better with a zipper closure. This belt will probably go anywhere except through TSA security.

A somewhat shiny metal surface is not a functional signal mirror, although it might be better than nothing. DR offers a much better kit option. And there are many better alternatives for a minimalist kit.

PS: Reviewing this thread, I see I am merely repeating an opinion
I stated earlier.. At least I am consistent

I didn't even look at the contents. For the UK, most US survival kits have a lot of stuff we can't use. There's nothing to burn on the hills, no fish to catch. Rarely bright enough to use a signal mirror...

And if I was in the US I'd always put Dougs kit in the belt anyway. He seems to know what he's doing.

Trouble with the zip belts is you have to take the belt off to get at anything but the first item.

Don't know where your 'cheap' comment is coming from. All the reviews I've read say their quality is high.

qjs

With basic (="survival") gear, it is the contents that count, not the container. I think the best strategy is to assemble the items that will do you the most good in your environment, placing a premium on compactness, versatility, and utility. You might wind up with as much as a pound or two of stuff, which, frankly, is no big deal to carry. There are all kinds of options that will keep this stuff close at hand.

I used "cheap" in the sense of marginal, barely adequate or serviceable for the intended purpose. The assemblage proposed for the belt places a premium on small size, which doesn't always yield the proper tool for the job. Sometimes redundancy is a good idea. I always carry matches in a waterproof container, a Bic, and a ferro rod, plus some kind of tinder. I want to be sure I can have a fire, even though at times and places, building a fire would be totally inappropriate (like right now in SoCal). Some seasonal adjustment is probably a good idea.

The bulk of my experience relates to the arid American West, as is the gear I routinely tote. Put me in a tropical rain forest, and i would have many lessons to learn (probably the hard way). The operational environment must be understood.

The prices quoted are highway robbery. One can do twice as well, for half the cost, with just a dab of thoughtful consideration, and wind up with gear that actually functions well.

QJS, you can't fool me. I have been in Merrie England, and I have actually seen the sun shine (and in Scotland, as well). And your streams actually have running water, unlike ours....

As I said: I was only considering the belt.

> QJS, you can't fool me. I have been in Merrie England, and I
> have actually seen the sun shine (and in Scotland, as well).

You got me! The sun did shine. I think it was a Wednesday in 1982... :-).
No one would know what a signal mirror flash meant here anyway .

You'll be lucky to get a scot to admit the sun shines. They live in their fantastically beautiful country and just moan about the weather. I've never met ONE who said how lovely their country was. And I've worked there for a year.

qjs

Scotland is fabuous! Wonderful rugged climbing country with lots of coastline just begging for a kayak, ice climbing in season, and just plain gorgeous. A bit more chilly than SoCal, probbly