Evaluation of FAKs

Posted by: hikermor

Evaluation of FAKs - 04/23/19 03:08 PM

https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/topics/camping-and-hiking/best-first-aid-kit

We have been discussing First Aid kits a lot lately, and this seems like a good, objective evaluation of some of the kits available on the market.

I have been impressed with the work of Outdoor Gear Labs - objective and straightforward
Posted by: Jeanette_Isabelle

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 04/23/19 03:45 PM

If I hadn't already customized two first aid kits, I would be considering the Surviveware FAK. One of the first things I see when looking at first aid kits is how organized it is.

Jeanette Isabelle
Posted by: Jeanette_Isabelle

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 04/23/19 04:05 PM

Surviveware, the company, needs help in their marketing department. If you click on "About Us" and scroll down to "Why Trust Surviveware," just under that it says:

"Our products have been featured on NBC, FOX, and CBS."

My initial thought to that was "big freaking deal!" Are they serious? Is there anybody who would give a rodent's tail about how many networks that have featured their products?

Jeanette Isabelle
Posted by: DaveL

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 05/10/19 12:44 AM

I bought the surviveware small , good kit for the money useing it to replace my old SAR personal one, now for hunting and fishing etc. YMMV
Posted by: teacher

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 05/17/19 05:11 PM

My criteria:
1. needs to be light and dustproof
2. clearly labeled on the outside
3. Organized for people other than me
4. include meds and gloves
Posted by: teacher

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 08/09/19 08:52 PM

One observation: Most kits underpack medications; I carry a full bottle of Ibuprofen in some of my kits. (Its one of the most used items.)
Posted by: Phaedrus

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 08/09/19 10:47 PM

Originally Posted By: teacher
One observation: Most kits underpack medications; I carry a full bottle of Ibuprofen in some of my kits. (Its one of the most used items.)


Agreed! With FAKs that have packs of meds I almost never use anything but the ibuprofen, sometimes the dyphenhydramine.
Posted by: teacher

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 09/27/19 08:34 PM

Trying to decide if a blood clotting agent is necessary; celox or similar ( or a sponge?)
Posted by: hikermor

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 09/27/19 09:15 PM

Overthe decades, I have treated many bleeds with basically direct pressure, sometimes a pressure point. Clotting agents are probably useful when dealing with gunshot wounds or similar deep penetrating wound scenarios.

5f space and weight are not concerns, definitely include a clotting agent. Usually I had a weight/space consideration.
Posted by: chaosmagnet

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 09/28/19 11:45 AM

I would think that the deciding factors for carrying hemostatic gauze usually aren’t space and weight — you’ll likely be carrying some kind of gauze anyway. For me it’s cost. A good hemostatic gauze is one of the most expensive components of a single-person trauma aid kit, and unlike the other most expensive components (a CoTCCC recommended tourniquet and often the pouch the kit is carried in) they need to be replaced every few years.
Posted by: hikermor

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 09/28/19 02:15 PM

Good point. What are the Red Cross guidelines for the use of clotting agents? I note that they are included in some of their kits.
Posted by: chaosmagnet

Re: Evaluation of FAKs - 09/28/19 02:35 PM

With respect to the Red Cross, I follow the CoTCCC guidelines for traumatic injury. Their recommended devices and adjuncts (current, as far as I know) can be seen at https://books.allogy.com/web/tenant/8/books/f94aad5b-78f3-42be-b3de-8e8d63343866/. As far as I know the actual guidelines aren’t available for free on the Internet.