Battery-powered smart phone charger

Posted by: Bingley

Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/07/11 06:55 PM

I started looking for a battery-powered smart phone charger, and the search has turned out a bit harder than I thought. Regular (dumb?) phones don't demand as much power, and can be charged with a AA battery. I think smart phones need more. I found some candidates on Amazon, but nothing with rapturous reviews. In fact, the brand I used to use seems to have fallen down flat on its face. Any recommendations? Thanks!

Bingley

EDIT. Forgot to mention that this is meant to be an emergency charger for a common battery size (like AA or AAA). Small size and portability are important for this purpose.
Posted by: Glock-A-Roo

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/07/11 07:21 PM

I have had good luck with the Energizer XP2000, though I don't know if you're looking for a charger that will run on disposable cells. The XP2000 is a lithium polymer design that holds a charge well. You recharge it from various sources.

The cables & tips provided are a bit chintzy, but I don't use them. My Moto Droid 2 phone came with a great charging cord that has micro-USB on the phone end and 120VAC prongs on the wall end, but the 120VAC prongs pull off to reveal a standard size USB connector. So with one cord I can charge the phone from the wall, any powered 5VDC USB outlet, or the XP2000. Then later I can re-charge the XP2000 from the wall or any 5VDC USB outlet.

I have a micro-to-mini USB adapter that I tethered to the same cable that lets me connect a USB-powered external hard drive to a computer. It sounds trivial but it really helps cut down on the cable tangle in my EDC bag.
Posted by: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/07/11 07:53 PM

I've been using one of these for my Samsung B2710 handset and to power the portable stereo Bluetooth speaker system

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http://www.amazon.co.uk/TeckNet-Dual-Port-Universal-Incredible-Blackberry/dp/B000NDQ92W

The twin USB outputs are really handy, but you would need a Mains to USB PSU to charge the TeckNet Dual-Port iEP380 5000mAh 1.5Amp Output Universal USB Battery Pack.

http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-iDual-Port-IMP50D-Blackberry/dp/B003690Q42

The New Trent iDual-Port Pack IMP50D 5000mAh External Battery Pack available in the US is basically identical.




Posted by: chaosmagnet

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/07/11 09:33 PM

There are a bunch out there. I've got one for my iPhone that works well, but it doesn't seem to be made any more.
Posted by: jmcglash

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/07/11 10:05 PM

Bingley,

If you have minimal skill with a soldering iron or are open to building a new skill take a look at the MintyBoost from limor fried. It will charge most any smart phone of device that can be charged from the USB port of a computer.

The following is from the device web page. I can not recommend the device enough. There is even a solar version on the site.

Learn to Hack, Hack to Live,
Jim

(Hack as in A clever or elegant technical accomplishment)

http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/

Minty Boost: Portable USB power

Overview
This project details a small & simple, but very powerful USB charger for your mp3 player, camera, cell phone, and just about any other gadget you can plug into a USB port to charge! (See below for compatibility tests)

The charger circuitry and 2 AA batteries fit into an Altoids gum tin, and will run your iPod for hours! 2.5x more than you'd get from a 9V USB charger! (See Process for math/calculations) You can use rechargable batteries too.

Specifications:

Version 3 now works with iPhones and newer iGadgets!
5V output @ 500mA output
Fits in your pocket
Recharges just about any gadget with a USB cable
Uses any AA batteries!
Upgrade to C or D cells for a mega battery pack

Some numbers...

iPhone (all types): 3/4 full recharge
iPod video (tested, using alkaline batteries): 3hrs more video (1 full recharge)
iPod mini (tested w/rechargables): 26 hours more (1.5 full recharges)
iPod nano: 4 full recharges!
iPod shuffle : 60 hours more , 5 full recharges!

This project is suitable for beginners, some soldering tools are necessary but even if you've never soldered before it should be pretty easy. You can etch a circuitboard and/or breadboard this up, or simply buy a kit from the webshop.
Posted by: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/07/11 10:52 PM

Quote:
Small size and portability are important for this purpose.


To charge a iPhone4 the battery requires approx 5.3 Whrs ( Built-in rechargeable Li-ion battery 3.7 V at 1420 mAh ) with a charge efficiency of say 90% and a DC-DC converter efficiency of approx 70% you are going to need around 7-8 Whrs of AA cells i.e around 4 Hi capacity NiMh AAs or around 6-8 Alkaline AAs (for the same charge time). Neither are lightweight or small compared to the dedicated Lithium Ion rechargeable smart phone rechargers.

http://www.amazon.com/Tekkeon-TekCharge-Mobile-Battery-Charger/dp/B0014KLX9C

Perhaps the Tekkeon TekCharge with 4 AAs would be a better bet to get some charge into todays smart phones. Typical weight with 4 NiMhs will be around 280 grams (to give around 1 iPhone charge) compared to the New Trent iDual-Port Pack IMP50D 5000mAh External Battery Pack at around 155 gms (to give 2 charges). Using Lithium AA Primaries would give better performance (lighter weight) but would prove to be extremely expensive in long term use.


Posted by: dougwalkabout

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/08/11 02:16 AM

The OP is not entirely clear. Are we concerned about providing a full charge? Or are we just providing enough power to perform crucial tasks in a critical situation?
Posted by: Bingley

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/08/11 02:50 AM

Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
The OP is not entirely clear. Are we concerned about providing a full charge? Or are we just providing enough power to perform crucial tasks in a critical situation?


Sorry, I lost my thinking cap. If I run out of juice on an average, normal day, I have a fully charged backup cell phone battery that I can swap into the phone. The battery-powered recharger is for power outages that last more than a few days. I plan to keep a stash of, say, AA batteries so I can keep going in an emergency.

In your average power outage, I can afford to fully charge the cell phone, since I expect the power to be restore in good time, even if it takes the power company a while to do it. In a natural disaster, however, I may just charge the phone enough to do critical tasks. At the end, whether I get a full charge or not depends on how many batteries I have left. Portability is important in case I need to bug out.

This is what I'm thinking anyway. If there's something I've overlooked, please let me know. Thanks!

Da Bing
Posted by: dougwalkabout

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/08/11 03:46 AM

Thanks for the clarification. To follow up -- do you expect to have ready access to vehicles that operate on 12VDC? And, do you have a standard computer USB charging cable? If 'yes' on both counts, you may choose to add a 12V-to-USB plug to your kit, readily available for under $5.
Posted by: dougwalkabout

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/08/11 04:34 AM

Originally Posted By: jmcglash

Learn to Hack, Hack to Live,
Jim

(Hack as in A clever or elegant technical accomplishment)


Hey Jim, great first post. Welcome aboard.

"Learn to Hack, Hack to Live" is rather my motto. Out of inclination, rather than necessity. (Though beware the slings and arrows ...)

Hack away, sir, and kindly post your results.
Posted by: celler

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/08/11 09:52 AM

Small size and portable vs. power for outages that last more than a few days may represent attributes that cannot be reconciled. I live in hurricane alley and have toyed with various options. By far the simplest, most dependable, and most robust for power delivery is an easily obtainable 12 volt 7.2ah SLA battery carried in something like this. It is a bit heavy, but it is very portable. Simply add the 12 volt cell phone vehicle charger of your choice and charge away -- for a long, long time. SLA batteries have low self-discharge, have a long useful life, and are relatively easy to charge. When the battery finally dies(a few years if cared for properly), just replace it with another one.
Posted by: 7point82

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/08/11 10:29 AM

AFLM,
Thanks for the information on the New Trent iDual-Port Pack IMP50D. I'm going to have to pick one of those up!
Posted by: BigToe

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/08/11 02:27 PM

I use the Energizer Energi To Go product. It optimally uses two AA Lithium Ultimates (E91), although reportedly AA alkalines will work. The model I purchased has mini and micro USB connectors.

Woot had them on sale about a month ago and I picked up six of them. To be clear, for me they are a emergency use item, not for regular phone charging. In this use, the lithiums are a good fit (cost/shelf life factors).
Posted by: Bingley

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/08/11 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: dougwalkabout
Thanks for the clarification. To follow up -- do you expect to have ready access to vehicles that operate on 12VDC? And, do you have a standard computer USB charging cable? If 'yes' on both counts, you may choose to add a 12V-to-USB plug to your kit, readily available for under $5.


Yes, I already have a power converter with USB plug. In fact, I got it with this very purpose in mind. But I feel like some other power source would be useful, too. One of threats where I live is tornadoes, and cars can get destroyed.

Thanks for the suggestion, though. On a general note, the more I read our forum, the more impressed I am by the knowledge, civility, and the writing skills of our participants. This is a nice place.

Da Bing
Posted by: acropolis5

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/09/11 04:45 AM

Cellar, will the set-up you suggested also work as an emergency recharge unit for an IPad 2? Also, how do you recharge the battery? Can you do it from a car lighter type socket or do you need an inverter? Is a solar recharge reasonable frm a cost prospective?
Posted by: Eric

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/09/11 09:39 AM

I use a powerxtender by iGo. It uses 2 AA batteries and has changeable "tips" so I can use it with different phones/devices. It has worked pretty well for several different types of cell phones, including a razr, blackberry, samsung, and iPhone, and iPad.

-Eric
Posted by: celler

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/09/11 02:33 PM

Originally Posted By: acropolis5
Cellar, will the set-up you suggested also work as an emergency recharge unit for an IPad 2? Also, how do you recharge the battery? Can you do it from a car lighter type socket or do you need an inverter? Is a solar recharge reasonable frm a cost prospective?


I don't have an Ipad, but I see no reason why a 7.2ah battery could not do the job with your cigarette lighter adapter.

I have a small 500ma manual charger that I salvaged from another setup that I use to charge the battery. However, I have been looking at one of these for simpler charging.

I have not experimented with solar. If necessary, I plan to recharge the battery during the day with a Honda 4kw generator.
Posted by: Roarmeister

Re: Battery-powered smart phone charger - 07/09/11 03:38 PM

Originally Posted By: Eric
I use a powerxtender by iGo. It uses 2 AA batteries and has changeable "tips" so I can use it with different phones/devices. It has worked pretty well for several different types of cell phones, including a razr, blackberry, samsung, and iPhone, and iPad.

-Eric


2nd on that unit. I got one for my nephew's grad. You know kids and their electronics, they never anticipate so they are always away from an outlet without a full charge. It's on the smaller side and uses 2 AA ubiquitous batteries.

I have a 75 watt power inverter in the car so I can charge up any of my personal electronics.