EDC--On a Cruise

Posted by: suertetres

EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 04:28 AM

I just got back from a cruise-(wishing i was still there!)and in packing, i was faced with a dilema of packing- what i can take and what i can't.

Since my wife and I fell in love with cruising, what are things that you would/could and have take?

Posted by: dweste

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 05:57 AM

Aside from cruise-line specific guidelines, will you need to comply with TSA rules for airflight to the port city?
Posted by: BillLiptak

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 09:55 AM

Me and the misses got back from a cruise in April. I took along my maxpedition colossus and carried with me the following items:
SAK-deluxe tinkerer (20 bucks at the local Wal-Mart, if I have to ditch it, no heart breaks)
Purell hand sanitizer (2oz)
2 Dozen ez-wipes (individual packages)
Sunscreen, both spray on and creme (misses is very fair skinned and burns easily)
Bottle of Advil (small size)
Bottle of pepto (4oz I think)
Small sewing kit (Raines military sewing kit)
Inova XO led light
Doug Ritter's designed PSK (overkill maybe, but weighs practically nothing and if I go overboard with out the vest I have a whistle and signal mirror)
One set of spare batteries for everything
That's basically what comes to mind, fair warning.....check the local laws concerning knives where you go. I went to the Bahamas, which being a British Commonwealth meant sub 3" knives that could not lock, so my swiss army knife was ok. In Mexico knives are not allowed. Period. I found it wise to put the SAK on my keychain for the cruise-right out in the open so they could flag it right off the bat if they wanted to. Figured it was easier to hoof it back to the truck if need be rather than have to ditch it.

-Bill Liptak
Posted by: dweste

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 12:26 PM

I think you should consider more than your EDC. Situation specific challenges that might arise could include failure of the cruise ship to provide adequately in any of the survival categories, plus the basic failure to keep you afloat. No EDC is going to be able to address all these challenges, so perhaps your luggage might include something in the nature of a maritime-adapted BOB

You are placing your life in the hands of the cruise line in many ways. Bug out is probably not a realistic option for most of the cruise, for example. But with well thought out EDC and BOB-type luggage you could be prepared to “bug in,” on the ship, or onshore

A cruise would seem to offer just another environment for the same old survival preparedness challenges. If you are serious, then examine your kit against the Rule of Threes (you may die if you go: 3 minutes without air, 3 hours without shelter, 3 days without water, 3 weeks without food). And then I suggest checking to see if you have gear in each of whatever survival categories you salute; at this time mine include First Aid, Shelter, Fire, Water, Food, Navigation, Light, Signaling, Self-protection, Hygiene, and Morale.

Manmade restrictions on gear in an EDC or BOB would include at least the cruise line gear prohibitions, TSA gear restrictions if air flight is involved, and as Bill Liptak pointed out, the restrictions of various countries you will be visiting. Lots of homework is in order; hopefully the cruise line provides adequate guidelines. You might also check online for the State Department guidelines and travel advisories, and by phone or online with the relevant U.S. embassy, consulate, or whatever couldn’t hurt.

Also, you will be in close quarters with a lot of unprepared people who could be pretty desperate in a survival situation. You probably want to keep your preparations secret, perhaps even from your traveling companions.
Posted by: OldBaldGuy

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 01:28 PM

Good question. We are going on a cruise in Sept, I will pay special attention to this thread...
Posted by: GarlyDog

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 01:28 PM

IMO, increase your survival odds and cruise enjoyment by getting a cabin with a balcony. Below waterline / porthole cabins seem like death traps to me.
Posted by: OldBaldGuy

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 01:30 PM

First cruise we went on, we went thru a metal detector, and anything we were carrying went thru an airport type x-ray gizmo. Did you, and if so, did your cruise line pay any attention to the SAK???
Posted by: GarlyDog

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 01:37 PM

In my experience, if you got it through the airport, you will be able to get it on the ship.
Posted by: BillLiptak

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 01:59 PM

OBG, we sailed on Carnival Cruise and we did have to go thru a metal detecter and out belongings were sent thru an x-ray machine. Or should I say our carry on things, I have no idea what protocalls were in place for our "checked" luggage. I took my keychain that had my SAK and gerber infinity on it out of my pocket, right in front of one of their screeners and placed it in the tray to go thru the x-ray. He didn't say anything, no alarms went off as it went thru.....
Picked it up when it came out the other side and headed into the terminal.
I was very happy, and releived. As a creature of habit I haven't been without a pocket knife since about the 3rd grade. Back then it was a Schrade three bladed pen knife. By the time I hit 6th it was a SAK, scout model. Although I carry a 4" folder now for self defence as well as heavy chore cutting at the plant and don't like to be without one, without a simple SAK I feel naked, like a fish outta water. Just can't do it without the fact that I have nothing to cut with gnawing at my brain......

-Bill Liptak
Posted by: frediver

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 07:35 PM

For our Alaskan cruise I packed up a German SAK and small PSK
minus matches all in our checked bags. When we were on the ship
I removed and carried the items with us on all shore excursions without any problem, it was still the USA.
I have been told and personal observation confirms it that items brought on ship in open bags might be confiscated and held to trip end IF however these same items are in a closed purse or zipped backpack they go right thru the detectors. The items are still seen but ship personal are not allowed to open personal bags. I would not stretch this to pack an axe, machete, or
firearm tho, liquor, pocket knifes and lighters/matches seem to be fine. Check the purser's office for a small give away sewing kit.
AND don't forget some type of water purification tablet or equipment, supplies to last at least half of your trip.
A shipboard bug CAN happen.
Posted by: OldBaldGuy

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 08:57 PM

We aren't flying to the ship, we will be close enough to take a taxi...
Posted by: OldBaldGuy

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 08:59 PM

Good to hear. I think that I will just buy a generic multi-tool and go with that...
Posted by: red

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/22/08 09:52 PM

Originally Posted By: BillLiptak
I took my keychain that had my SAK and gerber infinity on it out of my pocket, right in front of one of their screeners and placed it in the tray to go thru the x-ray. He didn't say anything, no alarms went off as it went thru.....
Picked it up when it came out the other side and headed into the terminal.
I was very happy, and releived.


I've cruized Carnival before. They list their prohibited weapons on their website. You can have blades up to 4" long. I've heard of screeners allowing blades longer, but I wouldn't push it myself. They didn't bat their eyes to my leatherman.
Posted by: BillLiptak

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/23/08 03:02 PM

Good for on ship (the 4" blade), but likely a no-no where you disembark. Like I said, I was travelling to the Bahamas and there its 3" or under, non-locking.....
I admit to being "paranoid" and liking to be armed, but I just didn't see it for ship-board carry. My SAK was all I really needed, utility wise, and performed fine.

-Bill Liptak
Posted by: ratbert42

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/24/08 12:59 AM

The EDC item I used the most on my cruise was a flashlight. I wished I had brought a star chart. And bottled water. And more Jack Daniels. Hand sanitizer and wipes were everywhere on board.
Posted by: wildman800

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/24/08 01:30 AM

The best star chart that I have come across is the one that I got at a Barnes & Noble book store in the astronomy/astrology section.

Look for a chart that has a line connecting the stars of the constellations since that makes it easier to identify each of the constellations that are within your view.

A star chart is much easier to use if you know where North or South is. You can use the Big Dipper to point the way to the North Star. If you can recognize the Constellation Orion, remember that the sword scabbard always hangs-pointing South.

The farther away from civilization that you are, then the less light pollution you will have to deal with which allows you to see many more stars.

Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Barnes & Noble OR any other publishing firm, distributor, or retailer. I mentioned B&N because they came to my mind first, but what I said is true of any book store.
Posted by: suertetres

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/24/08 04:13 AM

I drove so the TSA flying guidelines didn't apply to me. Carnival does have a 4 inch blade restriction, as far as the metal detectors, they seemed like more of going through motion then anything. I wore my G-Shock watch and belt through it, didn't go off. The watch alone sets off airport dectectors. I believe they look for alcohol, guns, bombs etc- more "extreme" weapons if that makes sense, and alcohol so you buy theirs.

They do x-ray when you board everytime- I believe Jamaica was the only port that x-rayed before you left the port, then again on the boat. I kept my firestarter in my bag with no issues, carried first aid, meds, anti-bacterial, insect repel wipes, flash light, couple of lighters and had no issues.

I would have liked to taken more but sadly was completly unprepared- luckily nothing more then anti bacterial was needed, but i do plan on cruising again and would like to be as prepaired as possible. I thought about MRE, need water purification, to name a few things- I opted ot leave multi tool in truck just in case. Since it was my first cruise and again sadly hadn't ddone my research, i opted to go lightly to avoid issues.
Posted by: BillLiptak

Re: EDC--On a Cruise - 07/24/08 11:24 AM

As did I. Three other items I carried along that I forgot to mention earlier.....
Small FAK (AMK pocket kit with exrta bandaids and meds)
12 water purification tabs (in FAK pouch)
Nalgene bottle
Bottle was the thing most handy and used. Was able to fill it at the complimentary drink bar in the dining area and have 32 oz of fruit punch or tea with me. Very useful seeing as how me an the misses didn't buy the soda card (good for unlimited sodas and any crew menber selling drinks will fetch it for ya)

-Bill Liptak