Regarding tornadoes

Posted by: LaLine

Regarding tornadoes - 06/05/08 11:06 PM

My sister and her family recently moved to tornado alley and she is somewhat frantic about getting her family prepared. I've never lived where tornadoes would be an issue for me and I'm at a loss as to what to help her with. I'm mostly interested in helping them prepare mentally as I've already sent her all the information I had on general preparedness. So, what do you all do to keep the family from having nightmares about tornadoes (or other natural disasters)? I'm especially interested in any information you might have on helping children cope.

Thanks!
Posted by: jaywalke

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 01:47 AM

I grew up in southern Michigan, which gets funnel clouds quite often, and I've served time (excuse me, "lived") in the flat hell that is Illinois. Once you go through the sirens a few times, the fear fades. Tornadoes are so random and contained to such small areas, it's like worrying about being struck by lightning out of a clear sky. I don't think, however, that there is a way to keep children from getting upset, if the adults around them are getting upset.

So . . .
1. Have a basement. (Living in a mobile home in tornado country is a type of gambling that does not have a good payout. The tornado death rate for mobile home dwellers is 20x higher.)
2. Have a plan. (Go to the basement room with no (or fewest) windows. Duck and cover.)
3. Drill, so it's second nature.

That's it. I have vivid memories of my mom waking my brothers and me up in the middle of the night with the call, "Tornado drill!" I caught a glimpse outside as we headed for the basement, and saw the towering storm, miles-high, coming off Lake Michigan, the sky the color of an angry bruise.

Perspective: Tornadoes are streaky things, but on average only about 60 people per year die in them. Compare that to the 40,000 per year that die in traffic accidents. 15,000 die in accidental falls. Then consider that traffic accidents pale in comparison to heart attack, cancer, and stroke, which take hundreds of thousands of people every year. So, eat healthy and hug your kids. Death from the sky is nothing . . .

Basically, this is an irrational fear. Hard to combat. Information and practice are the only way to get past it.
Posted by: Jeanette_Isabelle

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 02:14 AM

That is true, the toll on human lives is very small compared to the other damage a tornado causes. In 1994 an F4 ripped through historic Lancaster Texas, taking out entire neighborhoods, destroying historic homes and buildings. While you and your family are safe, your house and town are gone.

Jeanette Isabelle
Posted by: jaywalke

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 02:38 AM

Towns can be rebuilt. Every structure in the US (aside from those in Chaco Canyon) is relatively young.

Things are just that: things. Beyond basic shelter and food, they only have the value, or lack thereof, that we place upon them.

The town where I went to college had everything above the ground floor on Main Street ripped off in a tornado. Two years later, you couldn't tell the difference.
Posted by: JCWohlschlag

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 03:19 AM

Probably another good priority to ease the anxiety would be to purchase one of the SAME-equipped NOAA weather radio that will give warning when a severe thunderstorm/tornado watch/warning is alerted. With tornadoes, warning time and quick, decisive action is what saves lives.
Posted by: BobS

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 03:29 AM

A tornado is a very selective storm, its not like a hurricane that is miles wide. A tornado only cuts a path that is one house wide (or at least the ones around here are like that) and can go miles not touching down. Most times when one comes through it only hits a few houses, the odds are definitely in your favor as far as not getting hit by one. I can only recall one house I have ever seen that had tornado damage and I don’t know a single person that has had one hit their home. I don’t give them much thought, I grew up with them and have no fear of them at all. In fact I use to go chase them with amateur radio friends for Skywarn.

The first thing they need to do is forget everything Hollywood has ever done on tornados. Hollywood is about entertainment, not facts. It would be a very boring movie if the tornado did not kill everything in its path and show pictures of cows flying through the air.

I would also tell them to get a weather radio and listen to it when severe weather is happening.
Posted by: OldBaldGuy

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 03:57 AM

You know, I spent my entire life (with a few years off working for my Uncle Sam) in earthquake prone CA, and think nothing of it. Tornados scare the crap out of me. Probably 'cuz you can see them coming. When I was in Panama we had waterspouts form off of the south coast daily; they always broke and went back up into the cloud when they hit the coast, and they still scared me, each and every one of them...
Posted by: nursemike

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 10:58 AM

"[quote=jaywalke] and I've served time (excuse me, "lived") in the flat hell that is Illinois. "

Hey now-some of IL is not that flat. And anyway, it's not the topography that make it hell, it's the folks who live there-the Illinoisy, Illannoying, Illegitimate, Illinoisome. And it's not their fault-what can be expected of folks who live in a state called ILL.
Posted by: jaywalke

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 12:23 PM

Originally Posted By: nursemike
Hey now-some of IL is not that flat.


Ha! I lived in Normal (which isn't), where the highest point in town is the overpass. You can see the curvature of the earth on the horizon. Southern Illinois has a few hills, but still not enough for me. There's a reason the mound-builders in the area seemed to worship hills.
Posted by: Hghvlocity

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 05:19 PM

I have lived in Oklahoma all my life..and have yet to see a tornado.

Let' talk about the kids for a moment..someone made a good point in an earlier post..it's all about the attitude that the parents show.

For example, last night, we had 70 mph straight line winds come through Tulsa. Of course my daughter is right by my side, (and I really wouldn't have it any other way). She always asks if there is a chance of tornados...I'm honest, yet with some humor. Last night I responded yeah there's a chance..just like everyday there's a chance that you will make your bed.

She always watches the weather with me and I take that opportunity to instruct. Kids take their ques from the parents. If you act like it's no big deal...it will be no big deal.

I grabbed a flashlight before plopping on the couch and she started to get that worried look. I explaind that I would much rather have it by..if the power happened to go out...then stumble around the living room getting to it. I explained that it's always better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. She went and got her mini-mag.



Posted by: Ors

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 05:34 PM

For my children, when we sheltered in the basement during that F5 that hit Parkersburg, one thing that reassured them was an electronic chem light...in case the lights went out, they felt like they had a ward against the darkness. Since we just moved into this house, I hadn't thought much about preparing for this eventuality, but since then I put a case of juice pouches and some bottled water in our space under the stairs...I plan to add some snacks and kid things to do as well.

We drove through the damaged areas of Parkersburg so the kids could see what a tornado can do. We kept telling them, "This is why it's important to stay in our safe place under the stairs during a tornado". We tried to emphasize that we are safe when we're in that place in our basement, but in truth there were a lot of empty basements in Parkersburg...meaning the contents got sucked out once the house was gone.

I also found that the tiny weather radio I had already unpacked from moving was very static-y unless I was standing next to the egress window. I need to test whether this happens with our other weather radio, or any radio in general. I have noticed that with all the trees a block away from us, the local classic rock station fades out.

Last night the tiny NOAA radio woke me up, but even upstairs next to a window, I heard nothing but static. I went to check the TV just after 130 and sure enough we were under another tornado warning. DW is at a conference and I'm home alone with the three young ones. I thought about getting them all into the basement, but the tornado was small and had dissipated by that time...passed a few miles south of us. I'll wake them up to get them to safety if I have to, but I really want them to develop respect for the weather (like the Van Halen tune from Twister, Respect The Wind) but I don't want them to develop anxiety. DW still has childhood memories of her Dad herding them into the basement every time the wind blew hard...he is paranoid about weather, and now so is she.

I also thought that it would be good to grab to BOB's for the safe spot...in Parkersburg, a lot of people were safe in their basements, but when they dug out, they found everything else was gone...at least we'd have some provisions for a little while with the BOB's...

I want my kids to be prepared, not scared.
Posted by: LaLine

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 09:19 PM

Thanks for the suggestion. She's looking into it now. They are near Wichita Falls where their county's warnings originate, so that's a good thing.
Posted by: LaLine

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 09:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Ors
For my children, when we sheltered in the basement during that F5 that hit Parkersburg, one thing that reassured them was an electronic chem light...in case the lights went out, they felt like they had a ward against the darkness. Since we just moved into this house, I hadn't thought much about preparing for this eventuality, but since then I put a case of juice pouches and some bottled water in our space under the stairs...I plan to add some snacks and kid things to do as well.


That's a great idea. I know my nephews think the snap chem lights are fun to play with. My niece is too young to care yet, but she might like the lights too. I think I'll send her some and mention having snacks available. Thanks.
Posted by: LaLine

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 09:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Hghvlocity
Let' talk about the kids for a moment..someone made a good point in an earlier post..it's all about the attitude that the parents show....Kids take their ques from the parents. If you act like it's no big deal...it will be no big deal.


Good point. My sister is really good about staying calm in various situations, but this is one she isn't used to. I think once she feels more comfortable with her preparations it will have a better impact on the kids.
Posted by: harstad

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/06/08 09:59 PM

Originally Posted By: Ors
For my children, when we sheltered in the basement during that F5 that hit Parkersburg, one thing that reassured them was an electronic chem light...in case the lights went out, they felt like they had a ward against the darkness. Since we just moved into this house, I hadn't thought much about preparing for this eventuality, but since then I put a case of juice pouches and some bottled water in our space under the stairs...I plan to add some snacks and kid things to do as well.

We drove through the damaged areas of Parkersburg so the kids could see what a tornado can do. We kept telling them, "This is why it's important to stay in our safe place under the stairs during a tornado". We tried to emphasize that we are safe when we're in that place in our basement, but in truth there were a lot of empty basements in Parkersburg...meaning the contents got sucked out once the house was gone.

I also found that the tiny weather radio I had already unpacked from moving was very static-y unless I was standing next to the egress window. I need to test whether this happens with our other weather radio, or any radio in general. I have noticed that with all the trees a block away from us, the local classic rock station fades out.

Last night the tiny NOAA radio woke me up, but even upstairs next to a window, I heard nothing but static. I went to check the TV just after 130 and sure enough we were under another tornado warning. DW is at a conference and I'm home alone with the three young ones. I thought about getting them all into the basement, but the tornado was small and had dissipated by that time...passed a few miles south of us. I'll wake them up to get them to safety if I have to, but I really want them to develop respect for the weather (like the Van Halen tune from Twister, Respect The Wind) but I don't want them to develop anxiety. DW still has childhood memories of her Dad herding them into the basement every time the wind blew hard...he is paranoid about weather, and now so is she.

I want my kids to be prepared, not scared.


Regarding the NOAA radio service, I have found that I can't get a signal in my basement. It works ok upstairs but even then for some reason I can pick up Lincoln, better than Omaha and Im in Omaha. They need to up the power or something. Does anyone know of a weather radio that picks up a good signal in a basement.
Posted by: KG2V

Re: Regarding tornadoes - 06/07/08 09:17 AM

Originally Posted By: harstad

Regarding the NOAA radio service, I have found that I can't get a signal in my basement. It works ok upstairs but even then for some reason I can pick up Lincoln, better than Omaha and Im in Omaha. They need to up the power or something. Does anyone know of a weather radio that picks up a good signal in a basement.


Most of them I've seen have a way to hook up an external antenna - why not do that. Antenna upstairs/on the roof, a drop of either twin lead or coax to the radio, and away you go