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#238736 - 01/05/12 09:35 PM Navigating at Night
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I'd appreicate your thoughts on using the North Star to navigate at night.

What should the hiker consider?

Thanks in advance.

Blake

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#238737 - 01/05/12 09:42 PM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: Outdoor_Quest]
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Cloud cover.
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#238741 - 01/05/12 10:32 PM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: Outdoor_Quest]
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Hemisphere?

How to locate it. Contrary to popular belief, it isn't the brightest star in the sky.

Here's a website to get you started:
http://souledout.org/nightsky/bigdippernavigation/bigdippernavigation.html


Edited by bacpacjac (01/05/12 11:03 PM)
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#238748 - 01/05/12 10:48 PM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: bacpacjac]
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I am a firm believer in knowing the night sky, especially the Big Dipper and the NS. It has come in handy for me when navigating in areas where local variation (iron in lava flows was deflecting the needle).

If you are ever steering a ship at night, it is much easier to pick a star that is on your course, and steer by that, rather than constantly consulting the ship's compass. Over a few hours, you may need to change stars, but that is easy to accomplish (as long as cloud cover doesn't interfere).

If there are clouds present, it really helps to know some of the other constellations to at least determine approximate directions. This requires study before hand.
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#238756 - 01/05/12 11:20 PM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: NightHiker]
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Originally Posted By: NightHiker
If you have a smart phone I highly recommend downloading Google's Sky Map, it's a great learning tool.


It's not available for iPhone, only Android. There is, however, http://www.google.com/sky/, which works for my iPhone and my PC.

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#238757 - 01/05/12 11:32 PM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: Outdoor_Quest]
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We're using Google's Sky Map with my new Android tablet. I's pretty darned cool and is really making it easier for DS to learn.
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#238758 - 01/05/12 11:42 PM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: NightHiker]
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Give yourself a lot of time learning celestial nav and practice it when you know where you are and where you're going (with primary nav available). See what happens when you go with celestial nav, only using map/compass/GPS as a back-up when you go off course. Counting on it as a back-up when you haven't really practiced it is a bad way to find out what you don't know.
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#238760 - 01/06/12 01:49 AM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: Outdoor_Quest]
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North star nav is great - if you are going North. Failing that, have a map, compass, flashlight and maybe a GPS. Terrain association at night is really tricky.

Just sayin

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#238777 - 01/06/12 01:16 PM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: Outdoor_Quest]
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There are a number of books out there which talk about celestial and natural navigation, such as: The Natural Navigator: A Watchful Explorer's Guide to a Nearly Forgotten Skill by Tristan Gooley and Finding Your Way Without Map or Compass Harold Gatty (although this book is a bit older). Understanding the environment you are going into before you go, such as prevailing winds, constellations which should be visible at that time of year, animal habits etc, is very important to navigate properly. I recommend these books, but think about your environment and what works for you.

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#238782 - 01/06/12 03:32 PM Re: Navigating at Night [Re: gonewiththewind]
Outdoor_Quest Offline
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Originally Posted By: Montanero
There are a number of books out there which talk about celestial and natural navigation, such as: The Natural Navigator: A Watchful Explorer's Guide to a Nearly Forgotten Skill by Tristan Gooley and Finding Your Way Without Map or Compass Harold Gatty (although this book is a bit older). Understanding the environment you are going into before you go, such as prevailing winds, constellations which should be visible at that time of year, animal habits etc, is very important to navigate properly. I recommend these books, but think about your environment and what works for you.


I ordered the book a few days ago. Looking forward to reading it.

Blake

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