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#34705 - 11/28/04 02:22 AM Disgusted and appalled
Anonymous
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RANT ON
Just wanted to share something with you guys which you will understand:
Last night, at the restaurant I work, Mr Tom enters. He comes often and is well known by the staff. We all know that he is a WWII veteran and hero. And although Mr Tom had booked the manageres seats him on the worst table in the house, right next to the kitchen doors! Needless to say I was disgusted and appalled!

If it was me, I would have given him the best place and his bottle of wine for free. This is no way to threat someone who fought for our freedom!
Apologies for ranting this here but I feel sick when I about it and sorry for the gentleman. <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

RANT OFF

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#34706 - 11/28/04 11:50 AM Re: Disgusted and appalled
Milestand Offline
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Registered: 09/29/02
Posts: 124
Although you made it clear you were in rant mode and were therefore perhaps just making the broader valid point about respect for our veterans, I'm betting the specific situation you described has more to it than meets the eye.

Any chance we could have some context to this story?

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#34707 - 11/28/04 11:29 PM Re: Disgusted and appalled
Polak187 Offline
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 1403
Loc: Brooklyn, New York
Mr Tom is a veteran but does he want to be treated any different? Does he want the best seat in the house with free bottle of wine because of his veteran status? Don't get me wrong, all my respect goes to anyone who puts his life on the line for a noble casue and I do believe that we are taking a lot of things in our life for granted not even thinking twice that maybe freedom I enjoy today was not my birth right but something earned by people like Mr Tom with their blood. There is an iffy line between showing respect and being over attentive. Maybe Mr Tom is not making big deal out of his vetaran status. He did what he had to do but it is over. Again I don't know the exact cirumstances about your rant and where it came from.

I will say it that artificial inflation of ones past actions will have a negative aspect on their life. Yes Mr. Tom should be respected. Yes Mr Tom should be given privilages and be helped. He should get his seat first, he should be greeted and
extended courtesy of managment but it all has to be done naturally. Going out with hymhs and fanfares just because Mr Tom showed up is not a good idea.

Matt
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#34708 - 11/29/04 12:17 AM Re: Disgusted and appalled
AyersTG Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/10/01
Posts: 1272
Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
Reinhardt,

IMHO: Never mind where he was seated; he's a big boy and can fend for himself if he chooses. However, when he next comes in, speak to him and politely listen to him. Vet or not, he's an "elder" in life and if his mind is still sharp, would probably enjoy chatting with a young man such as yourself. Heck, perhaps he has fascinating stories to tell - and probably not about WWII. None of my relatives who fought in WWII will discuss much about it, which I believe I understand. Just not polite conversation and besides, I wasn't there.

<shrug> He may be a bore or he may be very interesting, but it would be nice of you to personally take note of him.

Kind of you to notice the gentleman in the first place.

Tom

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#34709 - 11/29/04 12:21 AM Re: Disgusted and appalled
brian Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
Well said ... I agree completely.
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#34710 - 11/29/04 01:21 PM Re: Disgusted and appalled
Anonymous
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Gentlemen,
Thank for your responses.
When Mr Tom visits the restaurant I always try and exchange some words with him about his aviation career but generally try to avoid his role as commando in WWIII

When he dined on remembrance day upon exiting I had a chance to speak to him in private:-
"I just want to thank you for what you have done for our freedom"
He took my hand, the ex-commando replied:
"Thank you, it means a lot to me"
Upon exiting he further mentioned:
"You know what they say, you're worth fighting for".

That was the best compliment I've been given for a long time and it touched me.

Whenever I have dealings with a veteran I always try to go the extra mile. They are worth it. Whether they want it, is good point
raised. But I agree with the idea that veterans should get a card that allows them to get goods and services cheaper and better because their sacrifices created a better place for the rest of us.

Just to expand upon explaining the situation. Although all the tables of two were booked he was the first in. If the better tables in the house are free than you do not place an old man in a corner by the kitchen doors, yet that did happen. Thats what got me going.

Reinhardt




Edited by reinhardt_woets (11/29/04 01:24 PM)

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#34711 - 11/29/04 02:50 PM Re: Disgusted and appalled
brian Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
Quote:
Upon exiting he further mentioned:
"You know what they say, you're worth fighting for".
Yep.. Okay... that gave me a little chill down my spine. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Reminds me of my late grandfather (who btw would never or ask for special treatment of any kind) who was also a WWII vet. Sounds exactly how he would reply to your kind and respectful words of gratitude and appreciation.
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#34712 - 11/30/04 12:14 AM Re: Disgusted and appalled
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
Obviously your boss made a serious faux pax. A. It may have been deliberate or one of those short sighted decisions we all make. B. your friend may or may not have taken offense. What truly matters here is C. which is you. Manners, respect, civility- what used to be the mark of a gentleman or lady regardless of social 'station' has been nearly overwhelmed by the goosestepping of slobs in athletic shoes made by sweatshop labour. During my very brief european visit I was on the transit in Vienna. I was standing up. An elderly man @ 80 boarded. Immediately a women @ 50 yielded her seat, upon which a man @ 30 gave her his. Not one, but two kids in Punker regalia rose and offered their places to the man and myself. Now if you can see everyone with that equal respect and humility you will be known as a gentleman to all who understand it's true meaning. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#34713 - 11/30/04 02:44 AM Re: Disgusted and appalled
RayW Offline
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Registered: 12/06/01
Posts: 601
Loc: Orlando, FL
The only thing that i might add to the good advice in this thread is in a very polite way ask your boss about his seating choices. Don't ask in a way that is accusatory, you might learn something. He may not have given any thought to the decision, or he may know that Mr Tom wants to be in the back near the bathroom. And being in the food business you already know that for girl watching that sitting near the bathrooms is the best place to be.

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#34714 - 11/30/04 04:11 PM Re: Disgusted and appalled
brian Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
Quote:
for girl watching that sitting near the bathrooms is the best place to be
LOL ... It's funny cause it's true! <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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