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#151613 - 10/11/08 02:22 PM Flare storage
clearwater Offline
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1177
Loc: Channeled Scablands
Just got 400 marine survival flares for winter searches.

What sort of storage cabinet is best for such.

I know there are commercial cabinets for smokeless gun
powder made of metal and and that if made of wood, gun
powder cabiets should be 1" thick at least.

Metal or wood for flares? Any other things to consider?


Edited by clearwater (10/11/08 02:22 PM)

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#151616 - 10/11/08 02:34 PM Re: Flare storage [Re: clearwater]
big_al Offline
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If you are trying to build it yourself, if won't pass inspection by the fire department. It requires locks, nonflammable construction and vented.
I take that back about no building it yourself, you may be a class A welder and have the equipment smile

Go to your local Army/Navy surplus and get a large ammo or flare can. Your problem is solved, and they are cheap.(I like cheap) laugh


Edited by big_al (10/11/08 02:41 PM)
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#151644 - 10/11/08 04:57 PM Re: Flare storage [Re: big_al]
Johno Offline
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Registered: 01/05/03
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Loc: Scotland
How much explosive is in 400 flares?
Are they loose or packed, if packed what in, plastic oversleeves, plastic boxes or metal ammo type tins.
I would also assume that you would need an explosives licence to keep that many.

As for storage a lockable metal gun-safe type cabinet with the flares separated into ammo boxes should suffice.

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#151649 - 10/11/08 06:37 PM Re: Flare storage [Re: ]
clearwater Offline
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1177
Loc: Channeled Scablands
They will be in a stand alone garage owned by the county emergency
services. Lots of fire department personel will be in on the final
implementation. Just wanted some ideas for the the cheapest/handiest cabinets etc.

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#151714 - 10/12/08 07:15 PM Re: Flare storage [Re: clearwater]
CJK Offline
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Registered: 08/14/05
Posts: 601
Loc: FL, USA
Oh Ok I feel better....I too thought that you had PERSONALLY acquired 400 flares.....I was going to say that your homeowners insurance would DEFINITELY NOT LIKE THAT! I had a friend who, years ago, had about 40-50,000 rounds of ammo in his basement. A nosey and ticked off neighbor 'reported it' to (we think) the Fire Marshal....homeowners policy canceled...void. Lost the house....no other company wanted to touch it..........

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#151776 - 10/13/08 11:43 AM Re: Flare storage [Re: CJK]
MartinFocazio Offline

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Registered: 01/21/03
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Loc: Bucks County PA
Originally Posted By: CJK
I had a friend who, years ago, had about 40-50,000 rounds of ammo in his basement. A nosey and ticked off neighbor 'reported it' to (we think) the Fire Marshal...


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#151784 - 10/13/08 01:09 PM Re: Flare storage [Re: clearwater]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
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Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
I've gotta think that something GI is the cheapest way to go. Maybe 20mm ammo cans or something...
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#151803 - 10/13/08 04:29 PM Re: Flare storage [Re: ]
clearwater Offline
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Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1177
Loc: Channeled Scablands
Check out this short video by SAAMI.

http://www.saami.org/video/index.cfm

Firefighters have less to worry
about with ammo than many may think.


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#151807 - 10/13/08 05:05 PM Re: Flare storage [Re: clearwater]
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Registered: 09/02/07
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from the Orion (a major flare manufacturer) website:


Quote:
Emergency Flare Storage and Handling Procedures

Flares are a safe and stable item to store.

D.O.T. classifies flares as a flammable solid but they are not particularly sensitive to initiation. There is no threat of mass explosion. There is no threat of an individual flare exploding.

Flares should be stored in a cool, dry place away from excessive heat (above 167 degrees F), sparks or flames

While flares have no expiration date when properly stored, storage above 120 degrees F for long period of time (over 1 week) should be avoided. Normal recommended storage temperatures are 40 degrees to 90 degrees F.

To preserve the reliability and excellent performance characteristics of flares, do not expose the units to water for periods longer than 10 minutes - flares should be stored under dry conditions.

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#151832 - 10/13/08 08:41 PM Re: Flare storage [Re: ]
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He hadn't 'shown' it to anyone.....it was well known that he was an instructor.....his neighbor had problems with everyone in the neighborhood.....it just gave him a chance to cause my friend trouble..........and it did.

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