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#144814 - 08/19/08 09:38 PM Fire Steel
BobS Offline
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Registered: 02/08/08
Posts: 924
Loc: Toledo Ohio

What is the best (easiest to ignite) natural tinder to use that you have found to work quickly?

Dried leafs worked well (I had a fire going with 3 strikes, but other material doesn’t seem so fire friendly. Sawdust from my garage didn’t work as woodchips from a chainsaw (been laying in the backyard for a month so they were dry) did not want to light. I tried making a fizz stick with a knife and it lit with a lighter but not with a spark. Also very dry pine needles (all brown and dried out) did not want to do anything but smoke.


Drier lint is the best thing I have found, it works the first time every time, even if one spark hits it, it jumps into a flame. But I want to get good at it with found materials.
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#144818 - 08/19/08 09:56 PM Re: Fire Steel [Re: ]
LumpyJaw Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 08/04/07
Posts: 87
Loc: Virginia, USA
I just started a fire on our recent camping trip using dried grass. Actually started two fires this way to make sure the first one wasn't a fluke. The first started easier then the second. Don't really know why - used the same stuff and about the same size.

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#144819 - 08/19/08 09:58 PM Re: Fire Steel [Re: ]
CityBoyGoneCountry Offline
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Registered: 11/04/07
Posts: 369
This is why I have 100 cottonballs soaked in vaseline in a plastic bag in my BOB. Starting a fire with a spark isn't as easy as it seems, especially if it's been raining.

"The paradox of firemaking is the greater the need, the more difficult it usually is." - Ray Mears

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#144821 - 08/19/08 10:00 PM Re: Fire Steel [Re: ]
comms Offline
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Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1502
Loc: Mesa, AZ
I get a fire out of dried grass and dead weeds in my back yard using the mishmash on the back side of a magnesium stick pretty much every time.

A great question but think it should be noted that it sometimes takes time to generate a flame using fire steel or mishmash or other spark starter. I can go 5-10 minutes with dry natural tinder. Something that is not often discussed or shown on 'survival' shows...though I think Les once did a fade away to denote time on an occasion when the tinder was wet.
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#144830 - 08/19/08 10:25 PM Re: Fire Steel [Re: ]
ironraven Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
+1 on the cat tails. It doesn't so much burn as go "FWUMP"! Milk weed pods, same thing.
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#144850 - 08/19/08 11:52 PM Re: Fire Steel [Re: BobS]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
Fuzzy stuff inside of a birds nest...
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#144854 - 08/19/08 11:58 PM Re: Fire Steel [Re: OldBaldGuy]
Evan Offline
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Newbie

Registered: 02/20/07
Posts: 25
Loc: IL
Birds?

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#144872 - 08/20/08 02:46 AM Re: Fire Steel [Re: OldBaldGuy]
haertig Offline
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Registered: 03/13/05
Posts: 2322
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: OldBaldGuy
Fuzzy stuff inside of a birds nest...
You're taking a chance that they'll fly away and start a remote brush fire after you've lit them...

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#144880 - 08/20/08 04:02 AM Re: Fire Steel [Re: haertig]
dougwalkabout Offline
Crazy Canuck
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 02/03/07
Posts: 3219
Loc: Alberta, Canada
There's a world of difference between the old-style flints and the new firesteels.

I was given one of those new firesteels that creates an incredibly hot spark. Any finely shaved, reasonably dry wood catches right away.

The old flints create a much cooler spark. If I'm using one of those (or even a Bic lighter that's out of fluid) cattail heads are at the top of my list. Pocket lint from jeans works too: I've even shaved the inside of a pantleg with my knife to make it.

One thing that's good about practicing with an old-style flint: you learn to be meticulous about materials and preparation. If anything is awry, no fire.

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#144884 - 08/20/08 05:53 AM Re: Fire Steel [Re: dougwalkabout]
Fleetwing Offline
Stranger

Registered: 08/19/08
Posts: 11
Loc: Seattle
I am wondering if anyone has tried the Maya Dust. Of course, it is not a naturally occurring material either.

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