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#55482 - 12/07/05 11:27 PM PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
fugitive Offline
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Registered: 08/26/05
Posts: 183
Loc: The Great Pacific Northwest
Thankfully, I don’t air travel much anymore. But I am currently putting together a kit just for air travel. Trying to keep it light weight and simple, without having a vehicle kit or home kit anywhere nearby. The other problem is what to carry on and what to check. Arguably this may be my most challenging kit with the travel limitations and the distance from other backup kits.

I'll probably make up two kits, one for carry on and one for checked baggage. I will be staying in hotels not at the home of a well stocked relative.

The carry on will probably be very simple, SureFire A2, Fenix L1P, foldable N95 masks, water, snacks, FAK, AM/FM pocket radio. It pains me not to be able to pack a knife anymore. D'oh!!!

The checked bag kit can be a little more elaborate, but still needs to keep weight and size to a minimum. At the hotel I will be sure to get a stock of bottled water.

Any thoughts from you frequent flyers regarding your kits?

Thanks, TR

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#55483 - 12/08/05 12:55 AM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
7k7k99 Offline
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Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
I wonder about the surefire and the fenix -- some nimrod tsa person might think they could be used as a kubotan and confiscate them. I would hate to lose those pricey great lights

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#55484 - 12/08/05 01:03 AM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
SARbound Offline
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Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 503
Loc: Quebec City, Canada
My opinion is that you should only bring a water bottle and plenty of snacks on board (Bits & Bites being my favorites!). Some good reading material is a good must, and your favorite headphones along with an airline plug adapter for it to work in stereo.

In other words, don't bother too too much about the on-board part. As for checked baggage, I think you can put pretty much anything in there, other than firearms and explosive devices.

I would probably chuck your main PSK into your checked baggage. You will probably have some leftover water (from your bottle) when you land, and by the time you're leaving the baggage carrousel, you'll be reunited with your main PSK. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

My 2 cents...

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#55485 - 12/08/05 04:00 AM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
Chisel Offline
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Registered: 12/05/05
Posts: 1562
that is ...when you land .... safely in an airport. However, when you have emergency-landed in the everglades, its another matter altogether.

I think one can argue that a PSK is NOT needed at all inside a plane. A press of a button and you get what you need. A PSK is needed only when you find yourself in an unwelcoming environment and unfavorable conditions.

However, a PSK has to be in your pocket even inside a plane. So that if you crash land somewhere and you survive the crash, youd have something to help you. It should be assumed that some search party will be looking for the crashed plane. So, food and water are not that really critical. OK, water is critical in case they dont find you the first day, but not food. .

How about a signal mirror or something that might work as a signal mirror ?? I guess that in such a case, I would wish that I was a woman, cuz a small mirror is always there in the purse <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> and no cutom guy will ever raise an eybrow about it. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



Edited by Chisel (12/08/05 04:03 AM)

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#55486 - 12/08/05 04:44 AM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
xbanker Offline
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 484
Loc: Anthem, AZ USA
Quote:
I wonder about the surefire and the fenix -- some nimrod tsa person might think they could be used as a kubotan and confiscate them. I would hate to lose those pricey great lights

In my mind, this poses a quandary. On the one hand, I think it's important to have some kind of [smoke penetrating] flashlight on your person when flying. But agree there could be risk of confiscation with some of the less conventional-looking flashlights. OTH, putting the "good stuff" in your checked luggage exposes it to theft by dishonest airport personnel (that's not an indictment of all TSA or airline employees; I'm sure most are honest).
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#55487 - 12/08/05 06:01 AM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
fugitive Offline
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Registered: 08/26/05
Posts: 183
Loc: The Great Pacific Northwest
I am also a member of CandlePowerForums (should have been called FlashlightFreakForums). For the most part the small flashlights don't cause a problem with TSA. There will be the anecdotal story about somebody able to carry on a 5 cell maglight, while another will have a li'l mini-mag confiscated. Go figure. Over all I think I'm OK. Still I might swap the SFA2 for my $20 Cyclops for the flight. I think the Fenix will be fine.

I pack the flashlights partially as a tool to cut through smoke in an emergency, and partially as a surrogate (blankey) for my knives. I can't pack a knife, so I like to carry a bunch of "torches" to make me feel better.

TR

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#55488 - 12/08/05 01:42 PM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
Franciscomv Offline
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Registered: 09/04/05
Posts: 28
Loc: Buenos Aires, Argentina
I carry a Pelican 2AA flashlight when I fly. It's plastic, so nobody considers it a weapon. I pretty much carry a standard PSK minus sharp things (although I've been able to carry blunt nose scissors in my FAK).

My firestarting kit got some unwanted attention a while ago, so I took a friends advice and removed most of it from my kit and replaced it with a couple of lighters and a pack of cigarettes (for some reason if you're carrying cigarettes a lighter is OK, but I have been asked why I carried a lighter if I didn't smoke). I just added more alcohol pads to the FAK to make up for the lost tinder.

I pack my FAK and PSK into pouches that then go into my carry-on, the pouches have the logo of my SAR team and a copy of my Red Cross certificates, that seems to put most guys at ease when they ask me to open them.

Not having a knife SUCKS. I feel at home anywhere as long as I have my sharp stuff. I feel naked when I fly.
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#55489 - 12/08/05 02:07 PM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
Read this thread. It should help:

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#55490 - 12/08/05 05:34 PM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
fugitive Offline
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Registered: 08/26/05
Posts: 183
Loc: The Great Pacific Northwest
Craig,

That looks like a great thread.Thanks.

I'll post back on my final solution.

TR

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#55491 - 12/08/05 05:50 PM Re: PSK/BOB for Airline Travel?
paramedicpete Offline
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
I have carried several flashlights on my person and in carry-on without any problems. I always pack one PSK in each check-in bag and (knock on wood) have never had anything stolen. I steer clear of known prohibited items both for carry-on and check-in. I don’t know if I have been extremely lucky or if the confiscation hype is just that, hype.

Pete

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