Equipped To Survive Equipped To Survive® Presents
The Survival Forum
Where do you want to go on ETS?

Topic Options
#275706 - 07/08/15 06:07 AM Aquamira Frontier Max In-Line Virus Filtration Sys
ATN Offline
Newbie

Registered: 10/14/14
Posts: 46
Has anyone tried the Aquamira Frontier Max In-Line Virus Filtration System? I was curious about its performance and filters which supposedly filter out viruses. Thank you.

Top
#275713 - 07/08/15 01:56 PM Re: Aquamira Frontier Max In-Line Virus Filtration Sys [Re: ATN]
Tom_L Offline
Addict

Registered: 03/19/07
Posts: 690
I haven't tried the filter in question but I have used a couple of similar products. Just how well they work is hard to say. So far I've never had any health issues related to drinking contaminated water but I have no objective way of telling just how effectively those products happen to filter out viruses. I don't really see how one could measure that with any accuracy outside of a certified lab.

Top
#275714 - 07/08/15 03:12 PM Re: Aquamira Frontier Max In-Line Virus Filtration Sys [Re: ATN]
gonewiththewind Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 1517
I have several filters, including the Aquamira, but am looking for a scientific way to assess capabilities. Chemical testing is easy, some biological is not difficult, but viruses are very difficult to test for.

Top
#275719 - 07/09/15 12:31 AM Re: Aquamira Frontier Max In-Line Virus Filtration Sys [Re: gonewiththewind]
EMPnotImplyNuclear Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 09/10/08
Posts: 382
Originally Posted By: Montanero
I have several filters, including the Aquamira, but am looking for a scientific way to assess capabilities. Chemical testing is easy, some biological is not difficult, but viruses are very difficult to test for.

How are you performing tests for chemicals and biologicals (what do you do)?

The test report aquamira-red-line-filters-bcs-1403034-and-1403035-rev-1.pdf says
Quote:
...Proven effective by independent laboratories to consistently remove protozoan cysts, bacteria, and virus to [b]ANSI/NSF – 53 ... Bacteriophage MS-2 (ATCC 15597-B1) was used as a model for human viruses. It is of similar shape and size to human enteroviruses and thus is used to determine filter’s viral capture efficacy. It was enumerated using E. coli C3000 (ATCC 15597) as a host using the single layer plaque assay agar procedure as per EPA 1601.

So, all you do is obtain some "(ATCC 15597-B1)" and "(ATCC 15597)" from a supplier, contaminate sample of water, filter it, then squirt some contaminated and clean water on agar plate, incubate ... something something EPA1601?

Science is hard smile

Top
#275726 - 07/09/15 05:33 PM Re: Aquamira Frontier Max In-Line Virus Filtration Sys [Re: EMPnotImplyNuclear]
gonewiththewind Offline
Veteran

Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 1517
The difficulty is in finding a reputable lab that is willing to do it or is affordable. I was also using local ground water to first establish what contaminants were present. I do not own a sterile or sufficiently controlled environment to perform the tests myself.

My purpose has been to find the right filter system for my scouts for the environments they are exposed to.

I also do not blindly accept the test results posted by the manufacturers.

I want to find one that does both biological and chemical contaminants. This is the one I like: Renovo

Most college chemistry labs can easily do the chemical testing, some college biology labs can do some bacterial testing, but I am told that testing for viruses is a bit more involved and that they were not willing to do it. They would need assays for the specific biological contaminant, which can be expensive.

Science is not hard, I just want the testing to be done somewhere other than my garage.

Top



Moderator:  Alan_Romania, Blast, cliff, Hikin_Jim 
April
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30
Who's Online
1 registered (Doug_Ritter), 369 Guests and 22 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
GallenR, Jeebo, NicholasMarshall, Yadav, BenFoakes
5367 Registered Users
Newest Posts
Corny Jokes
by Jeanette_Isabelle
11:47 PM
People Are Not Paying Attention
by Jeanette_Isabelle
07:49 PM
USCG rescue fishermen frm deserted island
by brandtb
04/17/24 11:35 PM
Silver
by brandtb
04/16/24 10:32 PM
EDC Reduction
by Jeanette_Isabelle
04/16/24 03:13 PM
New York Earthquake
by chaosmagnet
04/09/24 12:27 PM
Bad review of a great backpack..
by Herman30
04/08/24 08:16 AM
Our adorable little earthquake
by Phaedrus
04/06/24 02:42 AM
Newest Images
Tiny knife / wrench
Handmade knives
2"x2" Glass Signal Mirror, Retroreflective Mesh
Trade School Tool Kit
My Pocket Kit
Glossary
Test

WARNING & DISCLAIMER: SELECT AND USE OUTDOORS AND SURVIVAL EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES AND TECHNIQUES AT YOUR OWN RISK. Information posted on this forum is not reviewed for accuracy and may not be reliable, use at your own risk. Please review the full WARNING & DISCLAIMER about information on this site.