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#259079 - 04/14/13 03:14 AM Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn
ILBob Offline
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#259084 - 04/14/13 09:17 AM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: ILBob]
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It looks very similar to the ones used when giving an injection / putting in an IV. If it is, it won’t get enough pressure to stop a major bleed.

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#259089 - 04/14/13 01:11 PM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: K9medic]
ILBob Offline
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Originally Posted By: K9medic
It looks very similar to the ones used when giving an injection / putting in an IV. If it is, it won’t get enough pressure to stop a major bleed.


I think you might well be right.
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#259105 - 04/14/13 10:46 PM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: ILBob]
chaosmagnet Offline
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The CAT is also an excellent option. That's what I have in my kits.

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#259106 - 04/14/13 10:48 PM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: ILBob]
gonewiththewind Offline
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CAT is great. They are also plentiful and inexpensive in my area.

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#259111 - 04/15/13 01:40 AM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: ]
hikermor Offline
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Have any of us needed to apply a tourniquet to an injury after direct pressure didn't work, outside of a battlefield situation? I am curious, because of the few hundred SAR incidents I have been involved in, we have never applied a T. I can understand that battlefield injuries are a different situation, but I suspect that most civilian situations are easier to control. Direct pressure has always done the job in my experience.
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#259113 - 04/15/13 02:34 AM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: hikermor]
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Originally Posted By: hikermor
...because of the few hundred SAR incidents I have been involved in, we have never applied a T... Direct pressure has always done the job in my experience.


How many of those incidents involved an arterial bleed?

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#259128 - 04/15/13 12:50 PM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: IzzyJG99
The SWAT-T is basically the CAT with a few minor improvements.


I don't think that's what you meant. The CAT and the SOF-T are pretty similar in appearance and operation. The SWAT-T is quite different and not easily applied one-handed.

Where the SWAT-T works for me is in my laptop bag, where it's cheap, multipurpose and much better than nothing in a low-threat environment. I have a CAT with the trauma kit I carry at the range. When I'm serving as an RSO I'd much rather prevent someone from getting hurt. If Plan A fails I'd like to be able to keep them alive to get them to the professionals.

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#259129 - 04/15/13 02:05 PM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: Glock-A-Roo]
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Good question - not sure,precisely - perhaps 10 to 15. Om at least a couple of occasions we started IVs to compensate for lost blood - one was a major amputation (arm). Direct pressure worked nearly always; a couple of times we did use pressure points.

One feature of my experience is a major amount of lag time between the injury and the arrival of responders. Even with prompt notification, the interval is likely to be an hour or more.

One point I would make is that, when space and weight are critical, don't bother carrying a specialized T. Use your bandanna and a stick.

Who has actually deployed a tourniquet?


Edited by hikermor (04/15/13 02:08 PM)
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#259137 - 04/15/13 05:40 PM Re: Single Hand Quick Release Reusable Pneumatic Tourn [Re: ILBob]
paramedicpete Offline
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There is no pneumatic aspect of this "tourniquet". Basically an elastic constricting band with a release buckle.

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