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#159206 - 12/19/08 11:29 PM CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued
Doug_Ritter Offline

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California Supreme Court allows good Samaritans to be sued for "nonmedical" care

http://www.latimes.com/features/health/medicine/la-me-good-samaritan19-2008dec19,0,6547898.story
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#159211 - 12/19/08 11:41 PM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Well, that ties it up in a bow. All the good and nice folks need to leave California now, I am ready to push it off into the water.
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#159213 - 12/19/08 11:52 PM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: Doug_Ritter]
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Well, that kinda bites. As a very general principle, I'm leery of laws that deny an injured party their "day in court" altogether. But this interpretation seems clearly against public interest, as well as possibly the broader intent of the legislature and previously established case law. The particular section where a statute is codified seems a mighty thin reed upon which to hang such an interpretation.

It seems to me that "rescue" and "emergency medical care" are rather vague and overlapping concepts, not easily distinguished. The court appears to have made a distinction where there is not much of a difference

Let's hope a jury does the right thing according to the facts of the case, and that the CA legislature moves quickly to restore the status quo ante and re-extend immunity to its proper and reasonable scope.


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#159214 - 12/19/08 11:57 PM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: Jeff_M]
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Originally Posted By: Jeff_McCann
Well, that kinda bites. . . . and that the CA legislature moves quickly to restore the status quo ante and re-extend immunity to its proper and reasonable scope. . . .



I wasn't in CA nearly as long as I was in Law School (1 semester before ejecting) and I heard nothing but negative things about the legislature there. Something about the inability to pour something out of a boot I think.

Jeff ya' kinda took off the EMS helmet and grabbed the briefcase there didn't ya' laugh laugh laugh


Edited by Desperado (12/20/08 02:53 AM)
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#159215 - 12/20/08 12:02 AM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: Desperado]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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I still get pleading phone calls to evacuate horses. The couple who successfully sued me for depreciation of their 'show' horse because he acquired a scar during my rescue subsequently divorced, and sold Black Beauty for his killer price.

It reminds me of the commercial fishing boat I spent 72 hours without even hot coffee towing back to harbour. They complained about the slip I was manuevering them into. I immediately began taking them back out to sea, until their pleas and a direct order from a irate CO changed my mind.

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#159218 - 12/20/08 12:27 AM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: Chris Kavanaugh]
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People that sue their rescuers should have to have day-glo orange liscense plates to prevent any future attempts.

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#159220 - 12/20/08 12:37 AM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: sodak]
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Originally Posted By: sodak
People that sue their rescuers should have to have day-glo orange liscense plates to prevent any future attempts.

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#159222 - 12/20/08 12:51 AM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: UncleGoo]
Cyblade Offline
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Registered: 02/16/06
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Yeah this is just another case of no good deed going unpunished. Reminds me of an episode of The Practice where a man got sued for sexual harrassment cause he used cpr to save this womens life and then after court she starts chokeing again and he just looks at her like NO WAY.

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#159224 - 12/20/08 12:57 AM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: Jeff_M]
Desperado Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jeff_McCann
Well, that kinda bites. As a very general principle, I'm leery of laws that deny an injured party their "day in court" altogether. But this interpretation seems clearly against public interest, as well as possibly the broader intent of the legislature and previously established case law. The particular section where a statute is codified seems a mighty thin reed upon which to hang such an interpretation.

It seems to me that "rescue" and "emergency medical care" are rather vague and overlapping concepts, not easily distinguished. The court appears to have made a distinction where there is not much of a difference

Let's hope a jury does the right thing according to the facts of the case, and that the CA legislature moves quickly to restore the status quo ante and re-extend immunity to its proper and reasonable scope.



Wait just a second, In most states I have visited there was something in the statutes regarding . . . "Failure to stop and render aid". . . Seems like we may have a contradiction in the two laws. I know that one of the last apprehensions I made was for just such a thing in Oklahoma. It applied not to just those who were actually involved, but those who suddenly "go blind" as the dust settles so they aren't late to their nail appointment.

How can the legislature reconcile the two issues I wonder?
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#159229 - 12/20/08 01:13 AM Re: CA Supremes allows Good Samaritans to be sued [Re: Desperado]
ironraven Offline
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Originally Posted By: Desperado
How can the legislature reconcile the two issues I wonder?


Why should they bother? I hate to sound cynical, but I doubt they will. Someone might try, but it will probably get killed. They could then stand up and say they are protecting people from those who practice medicine without a liscence or medical vigilantes or some such stupidity.

Remember, legislatures have made laws that include "if two vehicles shall meet at an unsignaled intersection, neither may proceed until the other has gone." They also think that banning inanimate objects can change behavior.
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