there lies the rub chris,i have'nt found a supplier of the millbank bag here in the u.s... i got mine in the u.k. at a store called silvermans about 8 years back . i'll continue to search for this item on the web. any of you guys in the u.k. or aussie please give me a hand with this .. thanks vince.... <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> [color:"green"] [/color]